Talk:Hergé

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Contents 1 Dialacts 2 Catholics and scouting 3 limited references to whitewash a rather dubious character 4 Middle name

[edit] Dialacts

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(how's this? Well, his initials are "GR", or if you put surname first, "RG". I am guessing his language was French, since that is one of the two Belgian languages and Remi looks more French than Dutch. The French name for the letter R is pronounced something like "Air", and for G, something between "Jay" and "Shay". The French would prounounce "Hergé" something like "Airjay" or "Airshay".)

I'd write it "Airh-jhay", where "jh" is pronounced the 2nd g in "garage". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.85.83.170 (talk • contribs) 23:52, 4 February 2006.

And "rh"? —Tamfang 16:31, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

(comment: Hergé was Frankophone, though apparently he did speak some Dutch, because the artificial languages he used in his albums were mostly or all based on (a French phonetic?) representation of a Dutch dialect called Marollenvlaams, as spoken in Brussels. --branko)

Actually, I think it was his grandmother who spoke Marols. He was basing those artificial languages mostly on his childhood memories of her. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.112.113.81 (talk • contribs) 03:40, 15 April 2005.

Herge spoke flemish dialect. Dutch is the language of the Netherlands. At the time of Herge's youth, this language was repressed in Belgium, only dialect would have been spoken in Brussels and Marollien is one such dialect. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.41.142.242 (talk • contribs) 02:18, 26 July 2005.

In one English version of "The Broken Ear" the Amazonian natives speak a language which, if read aloud, turns out to be Cockney. Das Baz 20:18, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

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"He decided to create a comic strip of his own, which would adopt the recent American innovation of using speech balloons to depict words come out of the characters' mouths." The quote "recent American innovation" is not completely true. Actually speech balloons or similar depictions of speech had been used in Europe for a long time before the americans started using them. The standardization of usage, and the foundations of the "syntax" for modern comics could be claimed to have originated during the late 19th-early 20th century ion US, though... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.112.113.105 (talk • contribs) 06:07, 1 December 2004.

[edit] Catholics and scouting

I was brought up a bit short by the passing mention implying that Catholics were more likely to be Boy Scouts than, say, Protestants. Is there any evidence for this? Scouting was invented in Britain, and first took wide hold in the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa, as well as the US, whose populations (excluding South African blacks) are majority-Protestant. Admittedly, Malta was the first country outside the UK to take up the movement. Is there some general reputation I am unaware of for a greater Catholic affinity, past or present, for scouting? LeoO3 06:22, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

In Belgium the situation was and still to a certain extent is that Catholics become scouts. There are other youth organs outside the Church but as with many things in Belgium, Political, Language and Religious lines determine association in civil society. Even healthcare programs are split by catholic, socialist, liberal and independant pillars. See : Pillarization —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.41.142.242 (talk • contribs) 02:20, 26 July 2005.

[edit] limited references to whitewash a rather dubious character

I find there are far too few references in this article. What's particularly disappointing is that Hergé's ties to the extreme right seem to be played down. It was not without reasons that he got into trouble with the resistance after WWII. He is a very controversial person though his graphic work is indeed quite popular. The notion that his comics are critical of Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy also seems to be a recent revision. Those adventures could equally be seen as dealing with the Balkan Wars and conflicts.--Caranorn 13:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like you know your stuff; I look forward to reading your additions. - DavidWBrooks 18:35, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Well I'll have to dig through a number of boxes first with no guarantee that I will actually find my those articles about Hergé. Not to speak of TV documentaries that I obviously cannot provide now. For the time being what I'd really like to see is sources to support the material currently in the article as much of it looks like original research.--Caranorn 20:54, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Middle name

His middle name is Prosper. I thought it's well-known, but here is a source: French newspaper L'EXPRESS: [1] or the British Telegraph: [2]. 62.245.207.2 (talk) 00:43, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

The ref is good, Mr. 62.245.207.2. I added it to the ref section as it had wider application than just the middle name. MURGH ^disc. 01:27, 6 March 2007 (UTC)