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this satire is yet to be known... who knows.. even after the episode airs, i dont know if ill know.


Perhaps it is a fun little episode with no real point, like the good old days? I doubt it, but...

They have random, fun episodes with no real point all the time. Atleast 2-3 a season. And if you go back and actually re-watch all the episodes, even the very earliest episodes often had SOMETHING to say (even if not as political in nature as current seasons), so that is nothing new to SP. The last non-political fun one was Make Love, Not Warcraft, then before that Free Wilzyx, Death of Eric Cartman and The Losing Edge. This is standard operating procedure for SP. -- Ubergenius 14:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

ur not a genius after all....... dont pretend to know stuff before it shows on air plz. --SangP 02:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

  • No personal attacks, please. Comment on the content, not the editor who wrote it. 147.70.242.40 00:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

You evidently didn't even read what I wrote. I was responding to someone commenting that they doubt they'd have a fun little episode like the good old days, because the "good old days" were very similar to nowadays (except for improved animation), in that they interspersed political commentary with random kids-being-kids episodes almost every season from season 1 until now. That is all. I wasn't commenting on the content of the new episode (which I still haven't seen). -- Ubergenius 14:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] The "Catholic Hierarchy"

Does anyone know if the Catholic hierarch with the principal speaking role (in the clergy scenes) was intended to be a caricature of Roger Cardinal Mahoney, the archbishop of LA? If so, this would make the satire of the episode quite astute, as the role encapsulates many off the criticisms the cardinal is facing right now.

[edit] This is the 5th halloween one...

This is the fifth halloween eppy. The last one was trapper keeper.


I think not, considering that it came out during November, and wasn't really classified as obviously as the other four mentioned.

[edit] Steve Irwin

The fact that Satan thinks it is too early to dress as Steve Irwin for the party is likely a reference to the fact that his death was an internet meme only hours after he died. Should I add it to the trivia?

When I saw that part, I was thinking of that episode, Jared Has Aides, and how it takes 22.3 years before something can be made fun of. 69.121.67.198 04:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I really don't see how it was a reference to the internet meme. I think it was just a joke, and a reference to his death in general. -- Xargon666x6

Agree Xargon666x6. I'm sure they just felt compelled to mention him in the show. As they have said before in interviews, you satire that which you love. -- Ubergenius 13:51, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

They mentioned this episode in a U.K newspaper, how they have completely disrespected Steve Irwin, and it was wrong to have him displayed with the barb hanging out of him...

And here's a CNN article about this [1]. This could prove to be controversial. Let's wait and see. Gdo01 20:33, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
My bad. I think its safe to say there is controversy [2] Look at how many articles there are on this. Gdo01 20:34, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
It does deserve a mention. I'll add it. -- Ubergenius 17:15, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Did anyone read that response by Terri Irwin about her concern about her kids seeing this? Aren't they like 8 and 1 years old? Who's dumb enough to let their kids watch South Park anyway?

As far as I'm concerned, it was prolly a knock on anyone that made fun of Steve Irwin's death in a sense of bad taste, such as WWE's Matt Striker.

Yeah exactly. Their joke was ABOUT people who cause controversy, they were _denouncing_ it... so it shouldn't have been any more controversial than a show that says "DON'T go kill people horribly" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.72.21.221 (talk) 02:59, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Sexual Harrasment

Sexual Harrasment(sp?) panda was at the party. In the last scene he appears in the bottom left.

Add to trivia maybe?

It was just a person in a Panda suit.

[edit] Ex?

"A summary released on the official South Park website mentioned that among Satan's problems would be an "ex-lover", however none of them appeared, and this teaser seems to have been unfulfilled."

Wasn't the minion with the scarred eye the same one Satan blasted in the face [and broke up with] at the end of the PSP episode?

I thought that minion was based on the guy from LOTR, who has been in south park various times...NJlo 14:11, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kenny

Kenny, though not prominent by any means, does appear in the episode.

Does he? If anyone can concretely tell where he does, please edit the trivia as so NJlo 14:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] burns, gandhi, hitler & diana

george burns, gandhi, adolf hitler and princess diana were all in hell and seen in hell on southpark bigger longer and uncut as kenny goes to hell

[edit] Overall Message

"The overall message of the episode implies that the girls on My Super Sweet 16 are worse than Satan."

In my view the overall message is that spoiling young kids is making them selfish, egoistic and blind to the feelings of others.

[edit] Elmo Costume

There is a black man dressed up as Elmo at the party. This is a reference to Kevin Clash.

That's not a black man, that's one of Satans minions, i will change it accordingly.

[edit] This article has big problems.

See WP:AVTRIV. That "trivia" section is much longer than the meat of the article. Also, it's not even trivia. It looks like someone got lazy and decided to put everything into a list instead of actually writing an article. This is pretty sorry work. Mr Spunky Toffee 17:40, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Was this the first episode...

... to use the word "nigger" (or "nigga" as Biggie Smalls, and Butters, says it)?  ProhibitOnions  (T) 19:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Supposedly, Krazy Kripples was the first to do so.Chocolate Panda 13:22, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm, I don't remember that, I'll have to watch it again. The Death Camp of Tolerance did, but in the setting of the museum, not having a character say it.  ProhibitOnions  (T) 19:49, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Song in closing scene.

I just added a note to the article that there's a song at the end that sounds similar to a handful of late-70s and early-80s dance songs, but someone I was chatting with on IRC told me that he's pretty sure it's not an original sound-alike, but it's actually from "Brithday Party" by Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five, but he wasn't 100% positive. Is there any encyclopedic and verifiable way to get confirmation on whether this is a specific song or a soundalike? - Ugliness Man 15:26, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Trivia

although the trivia section was a mess, removing all of itdidn't seem neccesary.. doesnteven appear in the historysection. i justsaw it and removed one thing and boom its gone.

[edit] Half Life Ending music?

I found that, after the 3 murderers ruin the Ferrari cake, and the scene switches to the party, you can hear in the backround something that sounds very similar to the ending music of the first Half Life video game for just a few seconds, untill the scene switches again to the preists. The full song can be heard here: http://media.putfile.com/Half-Life-musics

Is this a real usage of Half Life music, or just a sound alike? (it wouldn't be the first. after all, the Woodland Critter Christmas episode also had Half Life music.) Chocolate Panda 00:43, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Three Murderer Death

It seems to me that the way the three muderers has since been changed slightly... Did anyone else notice this, or was it just me?


[edit] Mention of Controversy?

Should the mention of the controversy over the Steve Irwin scene be mentioned specifically in the article? It is the first episode since "Cartoon Wars" that spawned news stories on CNN and other news outlets. ScoopPC11

[edit] Death of 3 murderers

The info about the different methods of killing from iTunes may be interesting but until a newspaper or major media critic reports on it, it fails WP:NOR. From what I've seen, it is more likely that the iTunes version is the original uncut scene, while the broadcast was edited by Standards & Practices. However, until it is reported on by the media, that is also OR and should not be included in the article. Does anyone have any sources for this? Cheers. L0b0t 17:59, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ferrari/Acura

Was the Ferrari cake/Acura cake storyline inspired by a real-life event? Not one involving a cake, but (as I suspect) some rich spoiled celebrity brat being given an Acura for her birthday and screaming "I want a Ferrari"?  ProhibitOnions  (T) 12:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it's meant to reference any specific event as much as it's just a general stereotyping of a spoiled brat, since an Acura is an "inferior" car compared to a Ferrari. It just falls in line with all the other spoiled brat things that Satan said/did in the episode. - Ugliness Man 12:55, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Sure, it's just that some of the things that happened seem a little bit too specific, like the W Hotel and the pictures of Satan on the walls. I thought there might have been some specific inpiration for this. Either that, or this kind of thing happens all the time...  ProhibitOnions  (T) 09:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I believe the direct inspiration is My Super Sweet 16, a reality TV show, and SOME of the events may have been gleaned or inspired from that show, but I don't think the Acura/Ferrari was anything from the episode, but just an illustration to the fact that, a CAR-SIZED CAKE wasn't good enough for Satan only because it wasn't a Ferrari, despite the amazement of a cake of that size and complexity. -- Ubergenius 14:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need to put controversy in context

It does not make sense to remove the reference to people wearing Crocidle Hunter costumes with fake stingrays as this was happening before the episode aired and the whole segement is a comentary on taste and what is or is not acceptable. Without this reference there is no question in play and makes Matt and Trey appear pointlessly viscous.--Wowaconia 04:10, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Song during Ferrari Cake scene

Does anyone know what the song is called? The one with the drum and the "ooohhhh yeah". many thanks.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.233.154.32 (talk) 03:23, 9 November 2006

The song is simply called "Oh Yeah", and it's by Yello. The context is that it's the song that was playing during a pivotal scene of the movie Ferris Beuller's Day Off" when the car (1961 Ferrari 250GT California) was revealed and discussed. The song was somewhat known before it got used in that movie, but the movie helped boost its popularity quite a bit, and the signature "chikachikaaaah!!!" became an unofficial pop culture reference for the 80s. Of course, this was in the article at one point, and may still be, but articles this new are constantly having trivia added and removed, so I hope that at leats this portion of the talk page remains intact. - Ugliness Man 12:28, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
You are welcome to put in the article providing a reliable 3rd party source has already published that info that you may cite it and it does not just come from your own viewing of the episode. Please see WP:OR, WP:V, WP:EPISODE, WP:NOT, and WP:WAF for some of the relevant rules. Cheers. L0b0t 13:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
It's also used as Duffman's theme in the Simpsons.

[edit] Good Article

I passed this article as it meets all the Good Article criteria. It's a tricky subject to tackle, but it concisely covers all the major issues with good sources. Well done everyone! -GilbertoSilvaFan 11:45, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

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