Talk:Heitor Villa-Lobos
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[edit] Biography assessment rating comment
The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Edofedinburgh 01:11, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Started a Villa-Lobos page, my first contribution to Wikipedia. Hope to have the page translated into (at least) Portuguese. - Deanfrey 22:36 Jan 31, 2003 (UTC)
[edit] If you need help...
If you need help, I can translate the article into Portuguese for you!
--Milena 16:46, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)
Nobody promised it would be easy??
http://www.musica.ufrn.br/gravacoes/escudeiro230703/index.htm
But great..
[edit] "Best known composer"
I would think that the statement would need verification? Admittedly, I don't know where to find it... Diogenes00 20:57, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
- My source is Componistenlexicon (Th. Willemze, 1971, in Dutch; English: Composers Lexicon), which states about Villa-Lobos: the greatest composer of the South-American continent. Some more or less independent Web sites:
- I can also live with an addition like "of the 20th century" or "during his life time", but there are not many composers from South-America. Are there any other candidates for best known composer of South America? China Crisis 08:43, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
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- Astor Piazzolla. JackofOz 08:47, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
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- I changed best known composer to best known classical composer China Crisis 08:03, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] LOST?
I wonder why the note for the lost pieces really remind me of the title of a tv series :p sentausa 14:47, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Copied?
Compare the article to this article: [3] I think it's copied straight from there. I hate when Wikipedia does this. I find it all over the place. This definitely is not free domain text and needs to be edited. Hazelorb 02:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- I agreed with this comment, and have done something about it. --RobertG ♬ talk 17:43, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Citations
In the comment field on an edit made at 02:58 on 24 November 2006, Robert G wrote:
this _was_ all referenced! - all my info came from Wright 1992 (which was the only reference I added); thanks for classifying it all as doubtful... I don't have to dig out page numbers, do I?
Yes, page numbers are generally regarded as necessary when citing a source as large as even a full-sized article, let alone a book. (Newspaper articles are another matter.) See the discussion of page numbers in the Wikipedia guide to sources at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia%3ACiting_sources#Page_numbers
I am the person largely responsible for those flags, some of which were on completely unreferenced statements (such as the one that unnamed "serialists" rejected Villa-Lobos's music in the 1950s and 60s). Others which merely point to Wright's book in some cases contradict information in other sources in the reference list (particularly Peppercorn), and in others are simply interesting points that I would like to verify without having to scan Wright from cover to cover each time.--Jerome Kohl 21:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I think Villa-Lobos' page needs a list of his works at the bottom (a separate list page already exists but I'm not sure how to merge it) - I also think his major works deserve pages of their own with at least a brief summary and a sociopolitical context (other great composers are awarded this!) so I've added links to these nonexistant pages and will create the ones I feel I know enough about (such as Amazonas)-JC
- This seems perfectly sensible to me, though I do wonder whether the Invocação em defesa da patria is a work of sufficient importance to deserve such treatment. Certainly the Chôros and the Bachianas brasileiras deserve to have articles, and all the better because they can be dealt with as collections rather than one at a time. As for merging the list of works with the article, I don't see what's wrong with the arrangement as it stands. Considering the huge output of this composer, merging would have the disadvantage of turning an encyclopedia article into a book-length document--Jerome Kohl 21:37, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
