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[edit] Bias in this article

90% of this actual article seems rather unencyclopedic, and rather more like opinion. The purpose of Wikipedia is not to prove or disprove, or cast any judgment whatsoever on homeopathy as a medicinal philosophy. This article should be edited to indicate only what HeadOn is, what's in it, and what it purports to do. For example, why not stop after the list of ingredients? Why go on to opine that "this means it does nothing"? That kind opinion has no place on this website. -M

If you reread the article, you will see it has a series of facts stated in it. Facts of what has happened on the commercial and its history. Even if you think a certain current event that holds a bit of opinionated views behind it should not be in an encyclopedia, then you might want to find out what the word encyclopedia means. [unsigned]
Agree. This is a good example of how WP's NPOV policy is misunderstood and misused. Wikipedia should not only report the fact that there is clear evidence that this product is a fraud, but that fact should be in the opening line. It is not biased to say that a fake medicinal product is sham. Of course, that sort of statement must have good sources clearly cited, but it is entirely appropriate. This article should treat its subject like pyramid scheme and Ponzi scheme. --Tysto 15:58, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Random Comments

Wikipedia should never have such stupid articles as this. Headon isn't encyclopediac. Its just the worst fuckin commercial ever.

I just saw a commercial for this. It was one of the most random things I'd ever seen. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.234.111.45 (talk • contribs).

How was it 'random'? I don't think that word means what you think it means. --Stevekl 23:30, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't think you're as smart as you think you are. Obviously he/she meant "apropos nothing." Don't be such a brickheaded literalist. Ng;jt 21:06, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!! HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!! HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!! --Darkdan 17:56, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Can get this article deleted it's biggest waste of MG on wikipedia. I wasn't expecting wikipedia article.--Scott3 23:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!! HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!! HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!! AlanzoB 14:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Disagree. While it is an annoying ad for a stupid product, it is a topic of sufficient interest to justify an informative article. Nsayer 23:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

As of 2006-07-21, I saw a couple of new ads on CNN:

  • ActivOn, topical analgesic, allegedly for "joint and muscle pain", from the makers of HeadOn.
  • FREEdHEM hemmorhoidal cream. It repeats "freedom from hemorrhoids? FREEdHEM hemmorhoidal cream." three times.

Both commercials were at the 14:26:00-0700 time (about a half hour before this posting). --Goldfndr 21:56, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh great. More annoying ads. --Darkdan 23:30, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Most random ad ever. I was convinced it must be a joke. However, I was glad that Wikipedia had an article on the subject to answer my question.

People have no idea what random means. Anyway, this commercial is very annoying. 71.81.45.164 01:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Ive heard people say this actually does work, It cools down your head when its hot °≈§→ Robomæyhem: T/←§≈° 05:37, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

That's called 'evaporation.' It's water and wax. Jredwards 14:01, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
  • So it's basically just Bengay? --Aemilia 02:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

This article is great, but may I make a suggestion? Change everything to HEAD ON, APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD repeated over and over.

Uncyclopedia did it. Pacific Coast Highway (blah • Snakes on a Plane) 22:44, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Well guess what? Uncyclopedia is where you go to create gibberish. Not here. Here, if you do that, you're banned for life. 13:14, 28 September 2006

You know, its ironic. That commercial actually gives you a headache. --66.218.11.113 06:32, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps the most annoying commercial in the history of commercials.

Their stradegy is to give you a headache with the commercial so you have to buy it!--Randoman412 21:55, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Three minute advert

It doesn't belong in the main article, but check out this three-minute version of the advert: http://youtube.com/watch?v=UAbAIpZG7II --DocSigma 02:27, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

The three minute version appears to be an edited video created by someone, with the same section of the commercial repeats over and over again. This is not necessarily relevant to the article unless it's placed under a parodies section. Chris 04:12, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

can i apply it any where else?

yeah, your face —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.26.101.71 (talk) 19:28, 26 January 2007 (UTC).
Three minutes? Is that possible to view without one's head exploding? Doc Strange 12:15, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Composition

Is it true that it's made of wax according to the article? Or is this vandalism someone missed? DanPMK 14:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Not vandalism. It's almost all wax. One of the main active ingredients is a coloring agent used in wood varnish, but the stick is completely clear. That should give you some idea as to what a joke this stuff is. ~Nec

The description says it's homeopathic. As a result, the amount of medicine is on the subatomic level. Homeopathists argue that it works, although most science is skeptical. Considering that it's based soundly on homeopathy (even if the soundness of homeopathy is questioned), it's not a "joke" so much as it's simply a homeopathic treatment. FunnyYetTasty 01:58, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
How is 'homeopathic treatment' not a joke? Jredwards 07:23, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, there is always the placebo effect. :P You'd be surprised how much emotional states and the like directly affect health, especially on minor things (like headaches). 4.238.21.144 21:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Does It Work?

As a person who has a genetic predisposition to sinus headaches and looking for a way to alleviate them without the use of daily sinus headache pills, I tried it out of desperation (ordered it from drugstore.com). I woke up today, and I felt the pressure in my head, and I used it, and I felt a lot better.

I know most people are making fun of it, but it worked for me, that's all I know. And I haven't seen the commercial for it (no tv). --Ruth_E

I woke up this morning with a headache too. Then I logged on to Wikipedia and I felt a lot better. It worked for me, that's all I know.
Now do you realize how silly you just made yourself look? —NRen2k5 06:29, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Learn a little more about homeopathy. The answer to the question, "does ANY homeopathic remedy work" is almost certainly "no." Homeopathic remedies are over 99.99% water, and operate under the idea that the weaker the solution is, the better it works, to say nothing of how they select their 'active ingredients,' which is equally bizarre. Jredwards 14:00, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

They are not over 99.99% water. There are typically more ingredients than just the “active” ingredient and water. The “active” ingredient is typically much less than 0.0000000000000001% of the total solution. I shit you not. The fact that there are people who will actually buy this snake oil is a testament to mankind's potential for stupidity. —NRen2k5 06:38, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

It's the commercial from hell! --66.218.17.94 04:34, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Comment doesn't belong under this header. —NRen2k5 06:38, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Head on, apply directly to the forehead

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LOL, that basically sums this whole product up.

The people who are stupid enough to be taken by this commercial both deserve to keep their headaches (which I guarantee you they will) and be robbed of their money. —NRen2k5 06:39, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

ButtOut, apply directly to the asshole. ButtOut, apply directly to the asshole. ButtOut, apply directly to the asshole. *Dan T.* 23:59, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What would they call it if…

What would they call it if it were a heart medication? -- Michael David 02:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

HeartOn, Apply Directly to the heart. HeartOn, Apply Directly to the heart. HeartOn, Apply directly to the heart.

I'm just mad that they didn't use headon's slogan for their freedhem product... --Darkdan 03:21, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Subliminal advertising anyone?

Penetrating, repetetive, quick. Annoying, too. - 68.113.160.226 04:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

sounds like my ex-boyfriend. --71.252.126.82 14:15, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
funniest thing ever on wiki

[edit] Different wording?

I had always believed that the repetitive commercial was created to get rid of claims in the original version (e.g. "It really works!"). Note that they recently changed the ActivOn ad so a clip from earlier in the ad appears in place of "It really works!" --plasket 23:34, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GIF Image

Hey guys, I really need your help. I am doing an International Baccalaureate project on Homo Faber, and I need your help finding a HeadOn GIF image. Before around September 6, 2006, I saw an animated GIF HeadOn image with the lady rubbing it over her forehead. Can any of you guys help me find this image? Thanks!

[edit] "intended for headache relief" ?

As of revision 79916100 the introduction states that this product is "intended for headache relief". However, it then goes on to say that the "intended uses are not listed on the website or in the commercial spot". On what basis are we saying that this is intended for headaches? (On the product itself perhaps?) --Billpg 19:11, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Well the first cite (the Slate article) states: "(That is, the product does exist. I'm not sure I can use the word "real" in any reference to a topical homeopathic health remedy.) HeadOn is meant to treat headaches and is a gel suffused with various plant extracts that you apply—say it with me—directly to the forehead." As the Slate cite comes right after the sentence with the phrase "intended for headache relief" in it, I think it is cited. --Darkdan 19:58, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
That appears to be just Slate's interpretation of what the product is for, and he doesn't state how he came to this conclusion either. Have the maker's of HeadOn ever said "This will relieve headaches" and if so, do they still stand by this statement? --Billpg 21:42, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay, how about the fourth reference which states "The new campaign was spawned by the unintentional help of the Council of Better Business Bureaus, whose National Advertising Division challenged a claim in an earlier spot that HeadOn provided "fast, safe, effective" headache relief." --Darkdan 01:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Even if Miralus isn't legally allowed to state that it's intended for headache relief, that is clearly what they intend you to use it for. Wikipedia isn't selling HeadOn, so we aren't bound by advertising laws. Leaving that information in the article makes it more informative, which is what Wikipedia is all about. Foobaz·o< 00:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "active ingredients"

The words active ingredients should not be placed in quotes, as they usually imply sarcasm or irony on behalf of the editor. Whether they truly work may be up for debate, but opinions should be left out of the article. Prometheus-X303- 05:16, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Yep. See also scare quotes.
These commercials mystify me. Were they planning to put out the making-fun commercials the whole time? At first I thought the repetition was some kind of error... The effectiveness of repetition has been shown in the past (we learned it in psych class in high school) but I think it comes off as kind of amateurish... --Galaxiaad 00:08, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2 or 6 active ingredients?

The two listed active ingredients, white bryony (a type of vine) and potassium dichromate, are diluted to .000001 PPM and 1 PPM respectively.

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The active ingredients in HeadOn are listed as:
  • Bryonia Alba (White Bryony) 12X H.P.U.S.
  • Iris Versicolor (Blue Flag) 12X H.P.U.S.
  • Kali Bichromicum (Potassium Bichromate/Dichromate) 6X H.P.U.S.
  • Hydrastis Canadensis (Golden Seal) 30X H.P.U.S.
  • Sulphur (Sublimed Sulphur) 12X H.P.U.S.

Are there two or six active ingredients?

I fixed this, i hope you like the section i added. Foobaz·o< 01:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
HeadOn ad: to prevent headaches, hit the mute button or change channels at the first sign of the ad. Edison 02:51, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
HeadOn is not homeopathic in the traditional sense, partially because there *is* enough of the active ingredients to be detected. It is more likely that they are calling it "homeopathic" in order to escape stricter regulations that would apply elsewhere. Grouse 00:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To the Sinus Headache Person:

I, too, have been suffering lately from a rash of sinus headaches and, like you, decided to try the HeadOn product, in spite of its (to me) high cost. Since the product comes in two different versions (one for "regular" headaches, one specifically for migraines), I purchased the "regular" one. Applied ONLY as directed, I did have a very brief respite BUT - again out of desperation, I tried something different - I applied it directly to both eyebrow bones AND directly UNDER the eyes along the cheek bones - and wow! I was very VERY surprised to find that it actually relieved the pressure in the sinuses, thereby relieving the sinus headache. This may very well be due to the (inactive?) menthol in the product, but if it works, who really cares? And it's much less messy to use than something like Vicks VapoRub, which also has fumes that can irritate the eyes.

Of course the commercial is annoying - it is SUPPOSED to be annoying. And causing headaches is "probably" one of its purposes. And it probably does NOT work for most people. But I am happily applying it AS NEEDED and finding it quite sufficient for my own needs.

ChatAngel 13:27, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

HEADON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FORHEAD!! HEADON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FORHEAD!! HEADON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FORHEAD!! HEADON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FORHEAD!! HEADON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FORHEAD!! HEADON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FORHEAD!!

[edit] Some letter

There seems to be a recall of someone's letter on the website, recalling his comments on its safety. Can someone show the first letter? 72.80.32.76 00:35, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ass On

Jay Lenno had recently parodied this product in which you take a BIG hamburger and rub it on your ASS. 65.173.105.125 00:04, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] A conundrum

Here's a good one. Now that the company also makes FirstOn, which is for itches... What do you do if your forehead itches AND you have a headache? I bet you'll stay up all night thinking that one over... TenPoundHammer 02:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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