User talk:Hatul
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[edit] Speedcubing image
Thanks so much for your comments! The reason for it being so big originally was because I had simply uploaded the photo at the fullest resolution I had, though I think what you did with the resizing works well, and looks great. Great job, and thanks for letting me know! Take care, Twilightsojourn 06:20, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
congratiulations!- You're the first one to write on my chat page! (Btw, I've replyed you on your page)
Yuval Y 14:17, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
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- Pleasure =) Btw, would you like me to change the commons one to cc 2.5 ? Yuval Y 14:04, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
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- They don't appear to be any different -- is there any difference I should know about? Otherwise, I see no reason why not. (P.S. I greatly enjoyed being the first one to write on your Talk page. :-)) Thanks, and take care, Twilightsojourn 19:53, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
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- It's nice to have talked with you, too! If you feel like saying hello again, be sure to swing by my talk page. :-) (Just so you know -- I just added your previous comment to my talk page, to maintain the continuity of the conversation.) Take care, Twilightsojourn 18:28, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
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- Sould we continue talking on both pages, or just one of them? Besides, do you have ICQ, Messenger or whatever such? Yuval Y 19:59, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I personally prefer to have a copy of comments on both talk pages, as I find it easier to follow a conversation. Different people have different styles, though, I've found.
- I'm actually most accessible by e-mail -- and you can hit the "E-mail this user" link on the left-hand side of the page to send me a message, if you'd like (when viewing my talk page/user page). It would be nice to hear from you! Take care, Twilightsojourn 20:35, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Commons' problem
Hi, as per this, please, as a courtesy, do not tag my images such that they are deleted from enwiki with the copy left in commons only. Commons, being largely ruled by copyright freaks represent a true danger for Wikipedia as those fellas change their rules as they see fit based on the whims of certain unsatisfied in the real life ambitions of becoming copyright lawyers or otherwise being in a position to tell others what to do.
I can reasonably defend most images in en-wiki, whose whatchlist I check regularly, but if the image gets copied to commons, then (based on the copy being present in commons) deleted from enwiki, and then due to another twist of mind of someone at commons becomes ineligible for commons and gets deleted, it becomes totally gone from wikispace and all info on the source becomes lost as well since I don't keep local copies and lists of sources of all images I upload.
As per this, each action of an image being copied to commons from Wikipedia threatens to reduce the amount of useful content rather than enriches the project. If you need an image in any other Wiki, make a local copy there as you see fit. Of course I cannot demand an exceptional treatment of images I upload since there is no policy that authorizes me to demand anything in connection with free license images but I hope you see the reasons of my request and will honor it as a courtesy.
I have always viewed commons with suspicion due to the paranoiac attitudes that was prevalent there and mostly avoided uploading anything to commons. But nevertheless, due to the series of the catastrophes perpetrated by certain wannabe experts some of the images I uploaded to Wikipedia are lost forever as someone copied them to commons (with best intentions), someone else tagged them redundant after that, then someone yet else whimsically decided that the acceptable image is no more acceptable and deleted it from commons. To make a long story short, please do not do it if possible. --Irpen 22:37, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- Well, the point is that this picture had been uploaded to commons at 10:24, November 14, 2005, as you can see in commons:Image:Stanislavsky.jpg. When I saw it was marked as "no source" in commons, I've decided to ask you. Now that you wrote the missing details, I added the {{NowCommons}} tag, and updated the details of the picture. I think it would stay there. I guess there are "copyright freaks" in commons, since each picture's got to have a proper information, source, and licence that is free for all. But, there are ways to get along with that. If you need any help in commons, you can contact me, here or in commons:user talk:Yuval Y and I'll do my best. Even though I'm an administrator in commons, I'm not a copyright freaks... Yuval Y • Chat • 23:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I see. The image was copied to commons by commons:user:Gilgamesh a while ago. To the point, someone's wanting the images to be sourced and licensed does not mean one is a copyright freak. Being a freak is being unreasonable and many commons admins' main activity consists of excersizing their legal skills in the twists of the various copyright laws without any expertize or true authority with the aim to delete stuff from there, even the images that in no way endanger the foundation, the commons' owner. This sadly prevailing culture at commons is responsible for several catastrophes that happened there and for a giant waste of time users have to spend to argue with the wannabe copyright lawyers. Therefore, I do not want to interfere with commons any more.
You say "source, and licence that is free for all". Note that "free for all" is subject to interpretation which are often driven by agendas or other motives. How do you know that images "eligible for free license" (as per current commons' view) will remain eligible forever if the rules in commons are changed on the whim by a certain cabal motivated by anything but the content (see my past comment). Additionally, commons rules may change to, say, allow only images that are free worldwide. How do you know then that what's PD in US is also PD in Fiji? Are you sure there are no countries with copyright terms of 300 years past the author's death. I cannot predict other possible twists in the minds there. I decided that the safest way is to avoid commons. I am very sad with the situation but from what I know, the traditions set even by accidnet in each Wikimedia projects dictates that project future. We have diverse and sourced wikipedias (like en-wiki) and we have the Wikiepdias that are the nationalist POV propaganda machines (don't want to name them) and what mattered was who started them and dictated the development at the early stages. In the commons the copyright paranoia is pervasive and I prefer to avoid the commons. By no means I intend to imply that all commons' activists or admins are copyright freaks. I would never have generalized to include the people whom I never met before, like you, for example. This is not a criticism of yourself in any way. This my opinion of the commons culture in general. Sorry if this sounds too harsh. --Irpen 23:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- Gee... I understand what you mean, since you can't use {{cc-by-nc}} images, for example. I guess that the {{pd-old}} is based on the source of the image, (or maybe the location of the uploader..?). I've just noticed (by checking my watchlist) that a picture I've uploaded was deleted for being marked as {{copyvio|http://www.flickr.com/photos/dce76/79935883/in/set-1709769/ says "Photo by Getty Images"}}... Nobody told me about that, and I donno if that's a good sign or not... As for me, I usually upload images I find on Flickr, and pictures I took by myself, so most of the times, they're get along just fine... Yuval Y • Chat • 00:18, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Tu104.jpg
Hi there, you asked for the old history of this page for sourcing purposes. Here's what I've got:
Tupolev Tu-104. Public domain image. Source: http://airlines.afriqonline.com/images/h076.jpg
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Does that help? -- nae'blis 17:33, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- Not very helpful since the image is no longer there, but I found some other sources of the pictures - commons:Image_talk:Tu104.jpg, and I guess one of them sould do the trick... Yuval Y • Chat • 07:42, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] he:User:Cool Cat
mind translating whats left? :) --Cat out 09:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- Everything there? Yuval Y • Chat • 12:33, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] RE: I've uploaded Image:York Minster West Window.jpg to the commons
Thanks very much for your kind words, Hatul. I really appreciate your support and am glad you liked the picture ;-) Asteriontalk 22:42, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
- Pleasure :-) Yuval Y • Chat • 19:22, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Happy Holidays!
Merry Christmas!!!! and happy holidays! -hotspot (come say hi) 24 December 2006 (UTC)
