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Does anyone know about the controversy/rumor about Hatzolah discriminating against non-jews needing medical assistance, or preferentialy treating jews when there are non-jews in more critical condition? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Outdoorvegan (talk • contribs) 22:01, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
This is a rumor. While it is true that Hatzolah worldwide are staffed by strictly orthodox Jews, they will treat anyone who calls for help. Because they are all ceritifed in one way or another, they must follow the dictates of their local cetiftying agencies.
This is not to say that there may be a volunteer or two that are on the fringe and won't help, but as a policy they will treat anyone, I know I have seen it with my own eys many times on both Coasts of the US, New York and Los Angeles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.193.73.140 (talk • contribs) 16:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Hatzalah in NY is a regular licenced Ambulance Service holding certification from the NYS D.O.H. and is recognized by the REMSCO Board. All the volunteers are NYS Certified Emergency Medical Technicians. The laws are clear, and Hatzalah does not discriminate in the treatment or response regardless of the patients <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lupin/navpop.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css&dontcountme=s">ethnic or social status or information.
ER staff in the Emergency Rooms that frequently recieve Hatzalah patients will attest to the fact that while Hatzalah, a community based organisation, naturally recieves the bulk of their calls for help from within the community, they nevertheless have seen many patients treated and transported who were clearly not Jewish.
When multiple patients are present at a scene, such as in the event of a car accident, Hatzalah volunteers folllow the same triage guidlines set forth by the NYS DOH and Remsco in determining order and type of patient care that is appropriate for the patients condition and that considers the available resources on scene.
In the past few years some very public pictures of Hatzalah volunteers have been circulated in the New York City daily newspapers such as the NY Post and the Daily News. These images, shot by news staff and freelance photographers at the scenes of car accidents, fires, assaults, and the like clearly illustrate the positive treatment of non-jewish patients by Hatzalah Volunteers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.249.232.25 (talk • contribs) 16:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Response Times
The article stated that Hatzolah responds in 4 minutes and FDNY responds in 8. FDNY's site breaks down the response times by levels and a level 1 has a response time of 5 minutes. In addition, while Hatzolah has a response time of 4 minutes, the cited source clearly makes note that this is during the day, at night H has a response time of 8 minutes. Yossiea 23:03, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- All you needed to do is add the words "by day". The averages still show a marked difference between the two services.--Geekish 08:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- If the FDNY response times are dependent on the severity of the calls, we can say that Hatzolah at night has an average response time of 8 minutes, regardless of severity. Their night coverage is not that great and they make no distinction in the article regarding severity and response times, as the FDNY does. Also, it's interesting how FDNY measures response times from receiving of the call, I wonder how Hatzolah measures response time. But I am assuming they measure from dispatch. Yossiea (talk) 13:57, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- Not to pick on a point here, but the way the sentence is written makes it sound that it's 8 minutes for every situation, when in fact it is probably dependent on the severity. I'm sure a cardiac arrest gets a quicker response than a regular transport...which is why that sentence should be somewhat revised.--Geekish 04:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- A cardiac arrest probably will get a faster response time, but on average, their night response is 8 minutes. That is all we have from the source cited. FDNY breaks it down by call type, but Hatzolah doesn't. Yossiea (talk) 16:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Right right, we agree on that point. All i'm saying is that the sentence needs to be revised to reflect that. Something like "while Hatzolah's overall nightime response time averages 8 minutes. The way it's written now makes it sounds like its 8 minutes flat. Anyway... --Geekish 01:25, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- A cardiac arrest probably will get a faster response time, but on average, their night response is 8 minutes. That is all we have from the source cited. FDNY breaks it down by call type, but Hatzolah doesn't. Yossiea (talk) 16:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Not to pick on a point here, but the way the sentence is written makes it sound that it's 8 minutes for every situation, when in fact it is probably dependent on the severity. I'm sure a cardiac arrest gets a quicker response than a regular transport...which is why that sentence should be somewhat revised.--Geekish 04:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- If the FDNY response times are dependent on the severity of the calls, we can say that Hatzolah at night has an average response time of 8 minutes, regardless of severity. Their night coverage is not that great and they make no distinction in the article regarding severity and response times, as the FDNY does. Also, it's interesting how FDNY measures response times from receiving of the call, I wonder how Hatzolah measures response time. But I am assuming they measure from dispatch. Yossiea (talk) 13:57, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
