Talk:Hate (MMORPG terminology)

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--there is a difference between "mob" and "MOB." Look it up.

In the future, just tell us. We like to learn. - BalthCat 01:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Also... where? - BalthCat 01:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

--"MOB" is a computer programming term stands for "Movable Object Block," another term for sprite. MOB is an archaic describes the coding behind sprites (2D graphics in video games). A "mob" is an NPC enemy in a computer game. Mob is short for "mobile," and is used as a abbreviation reffering to any and all enemies in a game.

Sorry for the confusion! Try the links above for more info

[edit] Aggro music

--Isn't there a non-MMORPG definition for the term "aggro"? I thought it was a music genre or something.

Yes, it rang a bell so I googled it, and aggro is a term used for bands and music, however it does not seem to be common, or explained well anywhere. Aside from Aggrotech, that is, and I think that when I came across "aggro" is was more of a metal thing than industrial. So there's at least one article on Wikipedia defining an Aggro* term for music. The other mentions of "aggro band" etc on Google don't seem to be very helpful. The word "aggro" is actually a British/Australian slang adjective for violent, angry or threatening, so it MAY actually be less of a genre (except Aggrotech) and more of an adjective, like "hard" or "dark". I don't know, but I believe that a disambiguation may be warranted for Aggrotech. Not sure which is best, to redirect Aggro into Aggrotech and put the "Aggro redirects here, for the MMORPG term, see Hate (MMORPG terminology)" or put a similar message on this page. Any idea of which is more prevalent? Aggro as far as google is concerned (since the internet is for gamer geeks) is more likely mob aggro. - BalthCat 00:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I first heard the term in 1995 in central florida for music groups like KORN, Mindless Self Indulgence, Limp Biscuit(when they did Faith), Disturbed, Godsmack, etc. (I am not saying all these groups existed in '95, cept maybe KORN, i remember them in '96,anyways)that style of music was refered by surfers and club-heads as "aggro", short for aggressive. which it was. it was what came after that weird period where rock stations still called music alterative but it wasn't.('92-'95?)(alternative started in the 80s and died out into grunge) Nowadays. it what is common on the radio and i hear it refered to as "Nu-Metal" in music catalogs. if any one else remebers any thing else like this please put it down. Anapuna 09:53, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

It's a very common British English abbreviation for the sort of aggression caused by (e.g.) drunk people. "The students were causing a lot of aggro". 81.158.0.192 18:50, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Which game?

This article barely makes sense without mention of a specific game. More than one game engine may make use of this variable type but something specific needs to be put on the table. This is not a generic MMORPG concept. John Reid 11:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, World of Warcraft is mentioned near the bottom of the article... and I had EQ / WOW in mind when I started it I believe. Can we assume that if "Hate" is a concept that appears in the two biggest MMOs that it can be considered general? Syrthiss 11:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

While the article does need improving, I question that it barely makes sense, nor that it requires a specific game reference to work. In fact I think that a specific game reference may in fact make the article worse by making it less appropriate for other games. It's simple, really. Hate is the AI prioritising threat. How is that hard to comprehend, as it is a very logical thing to do. We do it, when we target those NPCs with particularly debilitating abilities, or high damage output. - BalthCat 05:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

ps: And World of Warcraft and City of Heroes/City of Villains both use it. I'm not sure if COH actually keeps track of healing. I think only radius-heals, if that. Meaning that if WOW does do all heals, describing it in those solid terms will make the article less correct in reference to COH's Aggro. I also believe that COH also ramps up the hate if a particular creature is weak against a particular attack type. - BalthCat 05:46, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Final Fantasy XI also had "aggro" and it did keep a list. mass heal and large spells were the highest priority on that list. short for aggresion but i always heard it as "agg" or "ag" or "hate". "ag" was the most prevelent that I heard. Anapuna 09:39, 14 November 2006 (UTC)