From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Hatay Province article. This is not a forum for general discussion about the article's subject.
Please sign and date your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~). Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic. New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Ask questions, get answers.	Be polite Assume good faith No personal attacks Be welcoming	Article policies No original research Neutral point of view Verifiability

	This article is within the scope of the WikiProject Turkey, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Turkey-related topics. Please visit the project page if you would like to participate. Happy editing!
Start	This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale.
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	To-do list for Hatay Province:	edit  · history  · watch  · refresh
No to-do list assigned; you can help us in improving the articles in the same category

It is requested that a photograph or photographs be included in this article to improve its quality, if possible. Wikipedians in Turkey may be able to help!

[edit] Comments

[edit] sources

could you please provide sources for your last additions. thanks at0 15:49, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

again I will ask for sources on the information provided. I have seen the message you left on my talk page in Turkish but you cite no sources there either. can you provide any sources, preferably verifiable ones? citation is especially important on controversial issues, and you probably know that Syria and Turkey had a disagreement for a long time regarding Hatay. thanks. at0 15:58, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Dear Atakan Bey, It is a fact that the "Hatay issue" is rather controversial. But the controversy does not stem from some so-called "election tricks" etc. As you may have read in certain sources, "Hatay" also bears some peculiar importance for the Arab nationalist and Ba'athist cause. A Ba'ath protagonist, Zaki al-Arsuzi himself was from Arsuz, as you would realise from his surname. Furthermore, Arab nationalism sees the "Hatay issue" as a Turco-French cooperation, thus an amalgamate of "Turkish yoke" and "French imperialism", two "evil forces" in Syrian political jargon, the latter also blamed for carving out Grand Liban. Unfortunately, there aren't enough sources published available in Turkish. It is true that there are ones on general contemporary history but they don't necessarily focus on events on a local basis and in detail. The annals, et al, published by the governorate were comprised of some anachronistic official propaganda (like "kırk asırlık Türk yurdu düşman elinde kalamaz") at least until recent times. Arab (i.e. Syrian) sources reperesent an opposite of this discourse and they are in Arabic, partially in French. There were efforts of local researchers and local press, some of which have seriously taken the issue. To name few; Mr. Müslüm Kabadayı (Antakya) and the defunct local paper of Güney Uyanış (Adana). However, there is an inspiring academic activity going on within the Department of Anthropology at Mustafa Kemal University, regarding the local ethno-cultural texture of the vicinity and its history. Some of my knowledge on the "registered voters" depend on a paper on the local history of district of Hassa, issued by a research fellow. As I had mentioned before, I didn't think to make use of data obtained from my personal contacts, because they may have been regarded simply as rumours and not some trustworthy field studies of oral history. If you have a particular interest on Hatay, I may also happily and humbly care to help you. Best Regards......Yunus