Talk:Harstine Island, Washington
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[edit] Hartstene vs Harstine what is the name?
Hartstene vs Harstine which is the correct spelling? Before I converted everything in Wikipedia to Hartstene they were both used about 50 / 50, If you search the Mason County Web site you also find both spellings used.
Having once been a local to the area I would say that (IMO) Harstine is probably the more popular. The local county phone number is (360) 427-9670 I will try to call when they are open. Jeepday 13:45, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Spelling/History
- Per the web page Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife it was was named for Lieutenant Henry J. Harstine, a member of the Wilkes Expedition. and is often misspelled as Hartstene, Harstene, and Hartstine. Jeepday 14:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- It's the Law per The following Determination of Geographic Names, being Order Number 98-1, done pursuant to chapter 43.126 RCW, is hereby transmitted to the Office of the Code Reviser for compilation and indexing pursuant to RCW 43.126.055 Harstine Island: Island, 14.5 km (9 mi) by 5.6 km (3.5 mi), located W of Case Inlet, in S Puget Sound, 16 km (10 mi) N of Olympia; Mason Co., WA; T19, 20, 21, R1W, W.M.; 4713'55" N, 12253'06" W. Not Hartstene Island, Harsteen Island, Harstein Island, Harstene Island, Harstene Island, Hartstein Island, Harstine Island. Approved by State Board 6/95; U.S. Board 11/97. Jeepday 15:10, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Harstine
This web page [1] pretty much sums the naming argument up "Hartstene Pointe Maintenance Association - A gated community on the north end of Harstine Island". The island is named Harstine, but a lot of things related to the island are spelled Hartstene. I will give this a few days to draw feed back or comments then move the page to become Harstine Island, Washington and do all the renames in pages and links, etc.(PS I am still researching but the arguments for Hartstene so far are not worth talking about) Jeepday 04:09, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hartstien
What an argument I am making, As soon as I think I have it all figured out and post something I learn more. Now I am using http://books.google.com to search and have added another log or two to the fire. Jeepday 05:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- According to the book History of the State of Washington By Edmond Stephen Meany, Hartstene Island was named for Lieutenant H.J. Hartstien.[1]
- According to the book Origin of Washington Geographic Names by Edmond S Meany, Hartstene Island was named for Lieutenant Henry J. Hartstene [2] The page in this book looks like it says the author examined the muster rolls of the Wilkes expedition, but I don't have a good view of that part of the page on line currently. Also notice that this book and the book "History of the State of Washington" both spell the lieutenant's name differently but seem to be written by the same author, kind of makes me question the reliability of either source.
- According to the book The Washington Historical Quarterly By Washington University State Historical Society, University of Washington Washington University State Historical Society [3] it is Harstine Island, named after an officer who's family name was undoubtedly Hartstene.
[edit] Rename and move complete
I have completed the move to Harstine Island, Washington and fixed all the redirects and updated all the spelling to the correct version Jeepday 04:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bridge
I thought when I was researching the name of the island that I had seen that the bridge was built in the 1950's now I can't find that reference and the best I can find is this
Until 1970, scattered communities like Ballow, Point Wilson and Jarrell Cove were connected only by boat. Now, despite a bridge that replaced the Pickering Passage ferry to the mainland, there's still a distinct island feel to the place.
Per http://www.geocaching.com/mark/details.aspx?PID=SY3438 A geodetic survey in 1967 found the bench mark “Details for Benchmark: SY3438”, “N 47° 15.711 W 122° 55.104 ” one mile north of the ferry landing on the west side of hartstene island
I also checked the huge PDF file for Washington Department of Transportation, 2002 bridge list. but the bridge is not there, it looks like the county owns the bridge maybe and the state does not list it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jeepday (talk • contribs) 17:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Reference
- ^ Meany, Edmond Stephen (1910). History of the State of Washington Edmond Stephen. Macmillan, Page 75.
- ^ Meany, Edmond S (1923). Origin of Washington Geographic Names. University of Washington press, Page 110.
- ^ Washington University State Historical Society. The Washington Historical Quarterly. University of Washington Washington, Page 186.
