Talk:Harlem Renaissance

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[edit] Picture?

Because this was an artistic happening, shouldn't there be a picture that summerizes the movement?

[edit] Second paragraph needs revision

The first sentence could use finesse, as Harlem during this time was a ghetto in the sense of being separated from white areas of the city, but readers familiar with history might think of ghetto in the contemporary sense (economically stagnant and run down), versus the thriving community of independent businesses, middle class neighborhoods, etc. that it was. Perhaps linking to the wiki page on "ghetto" might be helpful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghetto

The content and the syntax of the second sentence of the paragraph doesn't make any sense: "This movement created an increased the unoriginal culture of African Americans and broadened African American expression." Was the original sentence meant to read something like "This movement created an increased pride in the original culture of African Americans and broadened African American expression"? This sentence really needs to be fixed, as it currently conveys the exact opposite of what happened during this movement.

Trimat 21:32, 7 March 2007 (UTC)Trimat

[edit] Massive Edit: 19 November 2004

I have kept my eye on this page for several weeks, feeling that such a great period like the Harlem Renaissance served a significantly better article than has been languishing around here for more than a year. So, I took it upon myself to rewrite the article.

What I'm intending to do with this article is explore the roots of Harlem and its cultural explosion, describe the culture and the times it in which it was created, its decline, and examine its lasting effect on American culture and society today. I also intend to put a few good pictures up, chiefly of the prime movers and some of the art work they produced.

Quite a lot for an encyclopedia article, but it can and will be done—and it should have been done long ago. Hope you like what I do with the place. —ExplorerCDT 23:46, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

  • UPDATE: Article text done as of now 21NOV04. Pictures to follow later this evening. —ExplorerCDT 20:55, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I've looked over the history and it appears that ExplorerCDT's edit introduced many of the copyright problems of this article. Compare archive.org's version of the encarta page from a week before Explorer made his edit. It was definitely copied over from there. I'm reverting to the last version before ExplorerCDT edited the article, and any reuse of subsequently added content should be checked for copyright violations before being included. Night Gyr 04:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Leroy Jones

The article had Leroy Jones listed under the 'Dance' category, but the link was pointing to Leroy Jones, a trumpet player from New Orleans. I wanted to disambiguate the Leroy Jones on this page, but I didn't know if he was a dancer or a choreographer; I was unable to find any information about this particular Leroy Jones on Google. So I just removed the name, as it was liable to cause some confusion; if someone knows what the dance-related Leroy Jones was known for, could you please add him back in. - squibix 18:57, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Comments moved from main article

However, what emerges as a chief criticism of the Harlem Renaissance is that while African-American culture became absorbed into the mainstream American culture, a strange separation emerged of the Black community from American culture. As African-Americans with roots in this country dating to beginning of the North American slave trade in the early 17th Century, their worldview is distinctly native. Blacks, unlike other immigrants, had no immediate past, history and culture to celebrate as they were separated by generations from their roots in Africa. Some would argue that the positive implications of American nativity have never been fully appreciated by most African-Americans, especially given that the African-American's history and culture is, arguably, more completely American than most other ethnic groups within the United States.

this whole paragraph is deeply offensive, and needs review: "a strange separation emerged" slavery and incredible racism was the cause of that separation. blacks flourished nonetheless and this author seeks to criticize them for that. please, any sane minded decent individual will remove this paragraph. "blacks, unlike other immigrants, had no immediate past, history and culture to celebrate" please, this is very painful to read. i think in this millenium we would be above this sort of disgusting drivel. please reread the quote. how does this make sense! i think it is a wonder, that the past, culture, maybe less so history, of these people survived american slavery(one of the most heinous acts to ever go down in human history, never to be forgotten). "the positive implications of American nativity have never been fully appreciated by most African-Americans" here, sadly, i think the purpose of this paragraph becomes most clear. the heading is 'Criticism of the movement', now reread this paragraph, and ask, honestly, how anything in this paragraph is a criticism of the movement. the previous ones, were great, and they brought up really amazing points. but this one just seems to be a reaction to the development of black cultural pride, his chief criticism at that. given the context of this brutal nation, esp. then, it seems odd that celebration of black culture would be inherently worthy of criticism. i hope my comments help balance this otherwise beautiful article. thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 138.16.28.204 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Delisted GA

Delisted due to copyright problems. See GA Disputes for more info. Tarret 02:10, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] It is quite good though

The articles and details have important information. But it lacks a little bit of "The impact of harlem renaissance" There might be some information about the economy, changing some whites' attitude, blacks' pride and etc. Anyway, thanks for typing a good article

One other writer/activist is W.E.B. Du Bois

[edit] Proper name?

Is Harlem Renaissance a proper name? If not, I guess the R should not be capitalised - Harlem renaissance. // Habj 09:18, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

It is. Night Gyr 13:12, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Added more personalities to the list. Lists suffered from being to specific to the point of being exclusive, corrected this to be more inclusive. Moreover, correct name is Harlem Renaissance-- all capts at beginning of each word.172.163.92.141 23:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article Clean Up

I resubmitted a new article for Harlem Renaissance. As with the case of the article on the Lost Generation, I made an effort to be general for better clarity and analysis.TonyCrew 09:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Updated "Category" and added book to "Reference" for citations172.161.105.147 03:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

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