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I just modified the emperor nomenclature to make them more self-explanatory (but not necessarily the right format). BTW what standard shall we use for naming the title of Chinese emperor articles? How about [[Emperor (posthumous name, temple name etc.) of China]] such as Emperor Han Wudi of China? IMO this format is more appealing than just Han Wudi. Another format off the top of my head is "Emperor Wu of Han Dynasty". It shows exactly which emperor of a dynasty but doesn't say he was an Chinese emperor.

The format introduces in Chinese sovereign is the format used in Chinese language, for instance Han Wudi literally means Emperor Wu of the Han dynasty. User:kt2

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We surely need to break this article into subpages. -wshun 05:43, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Sure do, how will we be able to achieve that? kt2 05:45, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Contents 1 Question Regarding Territorial Maps 2 Nonsense 3 Rise of the Phoenix 4 The Emergence 5 Soft Protection 6 Pinyin Name 7 Rise and fall of Eastern Han Dynasty 8 true history 9 Han Dynasty including half of Korean Peninsula

[edit] Question Regarding Territorial Maps

Why are the Han territorial maps drawn out so strangely? It shows random gray gaps appearing right in the heart of the Han empire's territory. Does this mean that the Han didn't posess those territories? (territories right in the center of their empire too) Also, should the same types of maps be applied to other empires? Such as Rome, Greeks, Persia, etc? Because other territorial maps regarding other civilizations always have a solid shading/shape.

-intranetusa

[edit] Nonsense

"at the time. Antoninus Pius died in AD 161. The confusion arises because Marcus Aurelius took as additional names, those of his predecessor as a mark of respect. He is referred to in Chinese history as An Tun (= Antoninus) hence the confusion]--> reached the Chinese capital Luoyang in 166 and was greeted by Emperor Huan."

What has this to do with the Han-Dynasty??

[edit] Rise of the Phoenix

Just to let you know that an old SNES strategy game, Rise of the Phoenix, was based in some events during the Han Dynasty (divided in four stages you could choose to begin playing: Xiang Yu's Glory, Liu Bang Declares War, The Battle at Guang Wu and The Rise of the Phoenix, starting from year 206. If you ever want to create a list of games based on (at least part of) the Han Dynasty, here is one. -- ReyBrujo 02:00, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

and all the three kingdoms games, of course.

The only reason I understand the Warring States at all is that it was covered in the Cartoon History of the Universe II. To this day I think of Xiang Yu as "the guy who went AAAAAAAARGH!" and Liu Bang as "the guy who said 'Hey, old pal, how the %$#! you doin'!'" It is an excellent and irreverent treatment of the entire period. --Bluejay Young 02:31, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Emergence

The leader of the insurgents was Xiang Yu, an outstanding military commander without political expertise, who divided the country into 19 feudal states to his own satisfaction.

- This is a bit confusing. Satisfaction is a broad term. The sentence above could mean that he was just about pleased (satisfied with it) with the split or it could mean that he split up the country to his own end (satisfaction). Would be a lot better if it stated 'to fit is own political aims' or something of that ilk.

Sounds good. Why don't you go ahead and put it in?  :-) --Nlu 16:46, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

it was also to appease the powerful warlords. --Sumple 03:19, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Soft Protection

Too much vandalism by anons, so I soft protected the article. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 18:47, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pinyin Name

Why is the Han dynasty the only dynasty page using the pinyin tone mark in the name? For example, Song Dynasty, not Sòng; Yuan Dynasty, not Yúan. It just seems a bit off to me.

Kelvinc 06:54, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

It shouldn't have been. Wikipedia style is to use the most common English name for titles. No history book or English usage, not even the ones from China, writes in English using diacrtical marks on dynasty names, and no one, not even people from China, will be typing out "Hàn Dynasty" to search for this article. The only result will be a large number of redirects. --Yuje 17:34, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rise and fall of Eastern Han Dynasty

"...led the revolt against Wang Mang with the support of the during the reigns..."

That doesn't make sense. With the support of whom? Does anyone know?--Super Pi Maniac 04:39, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] true history

There is no standing evidence that the han dynasty reached as far out to north korea and pyongyang. Unesco only had a chinese representative during the 1900's, as for korea was busy with vietnam and the recovery of the korean war. This representative lied to Unesco, saying that the Chinese acually pushed the boundries in north korea. There project going on to retrive the history that is true to mankind. I have strong evidence to back up the theory that the Han dynasty did not come into korea. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.108.52.13 (talk • contribs).

You have any evidence that the Shi Ji, the Book of Han, the Han Ji, and the Zizhi Tongjian all fabricated the events? --Nlu (talk) 06:10, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

it seems the whole nation of korea become insane after the economical boom. koreans even boast the whole east Asia's history is all about the koreans. they created the Chinese characters. and the created the first dynasty of China. what a ridicule!

--Jacktance 05:39, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I haven't heard of that before. Any sources? –- kungming·2 ^(Talk) 21:27, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Han Dynasty including half of Korean Peninsula

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