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[edit] Korean relations

Why is koreans under possible related ethnic groups keep getting deleted? Were culturally, genetically, and physically similar i would say that qualifies us to at least have some relation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.245.161.98 (talk • contribs) 2007-02-23 00:49:35.

What qualifies as related ethnic groups was never quite vaguely defined. Some users tend to base it on similarity in languages, others on similarity to cultures, or whether or not they inhabit the same areas or same countries, and others on genetic relationships. Because of this, no one could really agree, and all but the most incontroversial ones were deleted.
As for Korean (and other East Asian cultures), while they may share the same surnames, they don't fall into the same linguistic group, and cultural similarities weren't because of common origins or common ancestors, but because they adopted elements of Chinese culture into their own. On the other hand, relations between Han Chinese and the listed ones, like Overseas Chinese, are completely uncontroversial. I personally disagree on the heavy bias towards using linguistics as basis of relationships (Chinese doesn't seem to be that close to Burmese people, from what I can see, for example), but as I said, the anthropology and ethnic groups wikiprojects don't seem to have outlined very clear guidelines on what consitutes as relatedness between ethnic groups. --Yuje 05:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't know if linguistics is used as a "basis of relationships", but it's often used as evidence of common ancestry. The fact that Burmese people don't seem to be that close to Chinese doesn't mean they could not have common ancestry. They could have branched off a long time ago. However, the fact that Korean and Chinese languages are very very different is not absolutely conclusive that Chinese and Korean peoples have common ancestry, but it certainly is pretty strong evidence. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 06:42, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
A distinction needs to be drawn between Koreans and Japanese imo. Whereas the Japanese had no "ethnic" interactions with the Chinese in recent history, Koreans intermixed with other peoples of Manchuria and surrounds, including Han Chinese. --Sumple (Talk) 10:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Stupid argument that should be deleted from this page

What the hell is this Han Chinese shit anyhow? Before China ever united many small Asian tribes around it as one big nation, it was never really just one Han race! Even afterward, various Asian races had conquered and reconquered by itself. Of course, the delusion of this bull shit on Han culture grow stronger with each different Asian races (Hakka, Hoklo, Canton, or whatever) wanting to be the next ruler of China!!

What Han really comes down to is just another one of those retarded religion such as Christianity that run around US and our world today! Most European White don't even know their own culture or history that Christianity is just a foreign religion spread from Jewish land to their home land during the time of Roman conquest (Augusta)!

BTW, China is such a pathetic country that can't even solved its own social and economic problems! I don't see why we, Taiwanese people, would even waste our time joining such a weak country!

Iron_Jackal_TW —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.18.109.120 (talk • contribs) 2007-03-27.

You're stupid unless you're of taiwanese aboriginal descent or something else your probably Han descent. And how does Han chinese have to do with christianity? I don't know what your problem is with chinese people themselves. If you have a problem with the chinese government then that's enother story. I don't care for the chinese government myself that's why my grandparents left. But i love the chinese people and culture

And for the record I think Taiwan should be an independant country. I dont see any reason it sould join china

I agree. Han is not a religion, and if you have a problem with the Chinese Government, this isn't where you discuss it. --Kpengboy 21:08, 5 April 2007 (UTC)Kpengboy

[edit] Culture/Names

Doesn't the surname precede the given name? --Kpengboy 21:08, 5 April 2007 (UTC)Kpengboy

If nobody's going to respond, I'll change it. --Kpengboy 03:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)Kpengboy

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