Talk:Hamilton, Ontario/General Discussion
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[edit] Pictures
We need new Hamilton pictures. Perhaps the top could have a picture of the well-developed downtown Hamilton. The two pictures on this article looks like they were taken on a rainy day. The article looks like to many words, and needs colour. Pictures of Dundurn Castle, Limeridge Mall, the City Centre, the downtowns of the amalgamted cities of hamilton, like Dundas, Ancaster, Stoney Creek city centres, MacMaster University, etc are all pictures that could be included.
- is it necessary for a climate article - the history of Hamilton should have it's own page and the current one condensed
- Hamilton pictures can be found at this site:
http://hamilton.foundlocally.com/Images/default.asp
The following information can be found at the site: "Note to Educators & Students: FoundLocally permits educational use (by teachers and by students) of our images, maps and content in lesson planning, lessons, homework and essays, so long as they are properly credited to our website and/or a link provided."
Does this mean we can also use these here at wikipedia?Nhl4hamilton 07:02, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
- I guess we can, afterall we are an encylopedia. Though the Picture by (Name) is sticking out like no other, and the pictures are quite small. Spookane 16:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Actually we should not use pictures with such a license. Wikipedia seeks to have images that can be used freely by those who use it. Hypothetical: we take a photo from that site and use it here, a local business uses the wikipedia photo for some advertising, assuming free use. That business user, relying on what he acquired in wikipedia is violating copyright. I'm no expert on this area of discussion, but I do believe we shouldn't use anything but free images for that reason. I went to great lengths to get that skyline pic released under a free license for that reason.Alan.ca 23:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Sounds good. I'll start adding a few more pictures by the middle of next week.Nhl4hamilton 02:03, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Wow... I think we're finished with the pictures, now... where to get references... Spookane 14:31, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- I recognize one of the names of the photographers who donated their personal pictures. Goes by the name "flar" and also posts up alot of his work (Hamilton photographs) over at a site www.skyscraperpage.com I may go there and ask him if he could add some more of his Hamilton-related photographs to our Hamilton wikipedia page. The guy is extremely talented photographer. Nhl4hamilton 08:55, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- I was able to get that main pic through Tourism Hamilton. If you click on the image it shows who took the photograph. The name of the agency is the official agency used by tourism Hamilton. I helped them create an account on commons, so if we need anything specific they would be the people to ask. I was down at the Central Library trying to get some historical photographs. It has been frustrating, I've made several failed attempts. I am going to try and get archivist Houghton, to help me find something on Monday. I did take a picture of the document defining the Town of Hamilton, but I don't know that it would really add prestige to the article. Alan.ca 18:35, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Vandalism
Someone is vanadalising the demographics page of Hamilton, as well as Mississauga, Brampton and others. However, I will fix them. We should semi-protect these articles. - Galati
- I'm thinking of forking the Demographics out to it's own article anyway. It has been of debatable importance to more than one editor. However, thanks for your help. Alan.ca 07:03, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A note on Hamilton-related pages
Greetings readers --
As a former history student and Hamilton resident, I periodically poke around these pages I wrote or heavily modified while trying not to step on any toes. I'm constantly adding little tidbits drawn from my local history books, my memory and other sources.
Although I think my writing is fairly tight and my information good, I often find Wikipedia encourages me to shorten up articles by breaking them up. Therefore, over the next while I will be hiving of portions of Hamilton, Ontario and making them stand alone pages. I stared with History of Hamilton, Ontario and I will probably create three or so more. What will remain at the main article is a much briefer summary but a link to the full monty.
Being self-aware of my fixation on these sorts of topics, I have gotten into the habit of creating dead links to Wiki articles I know I will eventually get around to writing, e.g., Desjardins Canal. Please don't kill these temporary dead ends.
I've also got ambitions to branch out to neighbouring communities and their related topics. If my energy holds up, Brant County, Ontario and Burlington, Ontario are next on my list. If you have other topics you'd like to see related to Hamilton, Burlington, Brant or my profile, please drop me a line.
Thanks for giving me a positive outlet for my obsessions. 8^)
Anderskin 00:17, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I changed the heading sizes a bit. Those =Text= headers are huge, so I changed them to double, and changed the doubles to triples. Everyking 15:20, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Please add references wherever you possibly can.....for example the blurb about Einstein's brain really needs to be supported by footnotes. PKT 02:54, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- I added a reference to it from the Health Sciences page at Mac. ... discospinster talk 03:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] City and Suburbs
The "City and Suburbs" section ends in the middle of a sentence....someone should fix that.... --Vgedris 17:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- Good catch. I've altered it thusly: "They have maintained their names as wards in the amalgamated city." I'm pretty sure that was the gist of the sentence. ... discospinster talk 17:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pollution
I moved to Hamilton 2 years ago and find it eerie how no one talks about the pollution. It is a taboo subject.
What is troubling is that it is pervasive. On a personal level, I will tell you that my lungs and eyes burn in the mornings, and I can't exercise outside -- I cough up some kind of chemical from my lungs if I exert myself (I used to jog).
Are there particulate statistics available in chart or graph form for air, soil, and water pollution in Hamilton? Anything that demonstrates health concerns for citizens living here?
I understand there was something going on at St. Mary's School, etc. & controversies with iron/steel industries such as Stelco & Dofasco = dioxin emissions.
Thx.
[[1]]? Bensaccount 04:45, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
The problem is you start to just enlarge the misconceptions about hamilton when talking about pollution with no stats to back it up. The majority of southern ontario's pollution does not come from hamilton but from the USA, and while Im sure if you live very close to the north end factories the pollution is bad (I worked at dofasco, and I will say the short walk from changeroom to workplace down the street really gave my asthma a run for its money every day)
But as for watering eyes and coughing up chemicals, maybe a doctor is the person to see.
[edit] Oh Please!
Four Seasons Nudist Resort and Ponderosa Nudist Park are listed as "Outdoor Attractions" Are you serious?
Also note:, "Because Hamilton is beside the Escarpment, the rock is too hard for a new subway system. However there are many Subway sandwich franchise shops conveniently located in town."
The nuclear reactor at McMaster university is no longer openly running, but it's still there. Somebody should make it more clear. It sounds like there's a nuclear reactor actively running by the way its stated.
- Er, what? It is still running as far I as I know. Nothing here suggests it isn't. --Saforrest 17:46, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lifesaver / Life Savers
The statement that:
"The Lifesaver, the "candy with the hole in it", was invented by the Beechnut Company of Hamilton in 1933."
seems misleading. the relevent wikipedia article LifeSavers points out correctly the origin of the Life Saver candy. There's a note in there that a company called Beech-Nut was acquired in 1931 by the company then making Life Savers. However the Life Saver itself originated in 1912 in Cleveland, not Hamilton, so this point should probably be removed from the list.
- You're right; it is misleading, as well as being wrong. The Beech-Nut Packing Company (who made gum and whose Canadian factory was located in Hamilton) was bought out by Life Savers Inc. The Hamilton plant wasn't even the first one in Canada to produce Life Savers. [2] I'll remove that entry. ... discospinster talk 19:55, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
