Talk:Hale, Greater Manchester

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I'm introducing standard template headings for this discussion page and the article as a whole. Can people please insert message within the appropriate section. Thank you. Cosmopolitancats 09:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Introduction 2 Geography and Administration 2.1 Civic History 2.2 Divisions and suburbs 2.3 Parliamentary representation 3 History 4 Landmarks 5 Demographics 6 Present Day 6.1 Communal facilities 6.2 Churches 6.3 Transport 6.4 Education 6.5 Sports and Leisure 6.6 Local culture, arts and media 7 Local notables 8 Places of Interest 9 OLD TALK ENTRIES 10 Roy Keane

[edit] Introduction

Correct error in introduction - Hale has never been a town. It is also south east of Altrincham, not south. (Bowdon is south) Cosmopolitancats 09:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC) Removed edit from unidentified person suggesting that three particular roads are notable. Besides being an opinion and unverifiable, placement in the introduction is incorrect. I'm not sure there is anyway that any road can be identified as notable as people will doubtless have different opinions - and wikipedia isn't about opinion. Cosmopolitancats 22:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Geography and Administration

[edit] Civic History

Include reference to former Hale District Council and former Cheshire Country Council and absorption into Trafford MBC as from 1974Cosmopolitancats 09:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

The information about local councillors is wrong and I have updated. This section needs to be updated after each election. Cosmopolitancats 10:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Divisions and suburbs

Include reference here to Hale Barns Cosmopolitancats 09:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Parliamentary representation

Move content re MP entry here from 'Politics' entry and delete 'Politics' as a heading as this not part of the standard template for describing settlementsCosmopolitancats 09:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History

[edit] Landmarks

[edit] Demographics

This is the section in which any comments about economic wealth should goCosmopolitancats 09:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Present Day

The subjective comment about wealth and the best roads to live on has been deleted. I've included a link to the Profile for Hale Central Ward on the Trafford MBC website. Please not include subjective comments. If you want to reference wealth and/or house prices please find an appropriate reference. Cosmopolitancats 10:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Communal facilities

Included Hale Cemetery Cosmopolitancats 09:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Churches

Include all those in Hale Barns as well? Cosmopolitancats 09:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Transport

References to Hale Railway station and buses go here Include reference to adjacent to Manchester Airport? Cosmopolitancats 09:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Education

Need to insert factual only reference to all schools (and OFSTED reports?) Cosmopolitancats 09:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sports and Leisure

Mention Golf Clubs? Cosmopolitancats 09:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Local culture, arts and media

[edit] Local notables

see comment below by Nufftin

Include all references to footballers and Coronations Street actors here - does this need citation and are references up to date? Cosmopolitancats 09:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I've marked up all the named notables as requiring citation. I've checked all their wiki entries and not one of them identifies where they live. Footballers with the big clubs have always lived in Bowdon, Hale and Hale Barns - as have Coronation Street stars and I would have no problem with them being referred to in a generic sense - but names need citation of the source of this information. I therefore suggest now that if no citation is forthcoming that all named individuals are deleted from the 'local notables' section.Cosmopolitancats 01:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Places of Interest

Include War memorials? Cosmopolitancats 09:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] OLD TALK ENTRIES

Please can "...there is a range..." be kept? "...there are a range of good schools" is bad grammar (like "there are a plate of sausages").

I don't know why but this page seems to be a magnet for Wikipedia's lunatic fringe. First of all the seven star hotel thing and now the comment about private schools. If angry, clearly uneducated people really feel the need to propound their offensive views about huge numbers of British children perhaps they they could stick to writing letters in green ink to newspapers rather than vandalising what are meant to be factual articles. Or at least confine it to the discussion page. More importantly, this article needs to be rewritten. I suspect the £1.4 million house price figure was made up. There are excellent private primary schools, and no state schools either locally or nationally obtain results that are anywhere near as good, but there are also excellent state grammar schools whose achievments are similar. The whole article seems like a piece of snobbery almost on the scale of the inverted snobbery I've just removed. Someone please do something.

If there is going to be a list of celebrities/athletes, can there either be a live link to another Wikipedia entry, or some short description of why they are famous? Otherwise non-Brits cannot gauge why it is important that they live in Hale. --Nufftin 14:06, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Roy Keane

Is Roy Keane still a resident of the area since his move to Celtic? -- hedpeguyuk May 24 8:20 (UTC)

Yes--Lo2u 12:37, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, lucky him (I didn't mean that to sound sarcastic). I would assume that he must feel a great deal of affection for the area, which probably isn't suprising. --hedpeguyuk 22:00, 27 May 2006 (UTC)