Talk:H. R. Haldeman
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The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Heidijane 15:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)I was going to reconfigure the quote marks on the SOB quote, despite the concurence of the Washington Post. Multiple sources support
- Every President needs a son-of-a-bitch, and I'm Nixon's
the quote i recall, and i find no source that quotes a full sentence with the wording
- the president's son-of-a-bitch.
It is likely that all the sources saying he
- called himself "the president's son-of-a-bitch."
are mispunctuations of what follows from the other version: that he called himself the President's (i.e., Nixon's) "son-of-a-bitch".
But i settled for a different paraphrase:
- once described being the president's "son-of-a-bitch" as part of his job.
The date of February 21 for conviction may be from a careless reading of [1]: convicted Jan 1, sentenced February 21.
"His burial site has never been revealed" implies that it is known he was not cremated. It doesn't say that that's known, so it raises the suspicion that it's just careless. Since it's hard to bury someone legally and have the location go unnoticed for over 10 years, and since it would be odd for someone who conceals their burial location to have it announced that they weren't cremated, i'd bet the correct statement is "the dispostion of his remains is unknown". Anyone know anything?
--Jerzy(t) 03:08, 2004 Jun 25 (UTC)
[edit] the Washington Post article
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/watergate/haldeman.html
Some of the attempts to remove direct quotes from this source material have changed sense. For example our article implies that the 18 1/2 minute gap was just Haldeman and Nixon, the source that that was one of the conversations believed to be in it.Rich Farmbrough
- The words from "For example ..." to "...to be in it." look garbled; if they are a sentence, they say that Nixon was the source. Please clarify.
- But since the WP article contains a factual error, it is a dangerous source.
- --Jerzy(t) 22:38, 2004 Jul 6 (UTC)
[edit] The Haldeman Diaries
Could someone include the fact that The Ends Of Power was a collaboration with someone else (his name escapes me at the minute). I also think that The Haldeman Diaries (published 1994) is a more important book than The Ends Of Power and that the comment made in the text about The Ends of Power is rather misleading.
[edit] The Germans
Haldeman and Ehrlichman may have been known as the Germans but Haldeman's family were in fact Swiss. I don't think they're anything wrong with saying they were known as the Germans but not to point out that his family were Swiss is sloppy.
- I fixed this in the Haldeman and Ehrlichman articles, numerous sources referred to the nickname as "The Berlin Wall" and not "The Germans". Sounds like to me that someone was just misquoting the reference. --Wgfinley 21:22, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Ends of Power
"The Ends of Power" was written "with" Joseph DiMona.
Haldeman would have agreed that "The Haldeman Diaries" is, by far, the more important work
[edit] Burial
From Jerzy:
"His burial site has never been revealed" implies that it is known he was not cremated. It doesn't say that that's known, so it raises the suspicion that it's just careless. Since it's hard to bury someone legally and have the location go unnoticed for over 10 years, and since it would be odd for someone who conceals their burial location to have it announced that they weren't cremated, i'd bet the correct statement is "the dispostion of his remains is unknown". Anyone know anything?
You're absolutely right. I have made a change to the entry that remedies this.
HHH
[edit] German?
"Haldeman and Ehrlichman may have been known as the Germans but Haldeman's family were in fact Swiss. I don't think they're anything wrong with saying they were known as the Germans but not to point out that his family were Swiss is sloppy.
* I fixed this in the Haldeman and Ehrlichman articles, numerous sources referred to the nickname as "The Berlin Wall" and not "The Germans". Sounds like to me that someone was just misquoting the reference. --Wgfinley 21:22, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)"
(a)Haldeman is, indeed, Swiss. More specifically, "Schweizerdeutsch" - i.e., Swiss of German derivation. (b)nonetheless, it remains accurate to state that Haldeman & Ehrlichman were variously referred to as "The Germans," "The Kruats," and "The Berlin Wall."
