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[edit] Ares IV

I've gone ahead and deleted, feel free to move. --Coredesat 22:13, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 23:14, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Sea Launch

You seem to know quite a bit about this kind of stuff, so I was wondering: do you have any details regarding the failure of the recent NSS-8 launch? Any information would be much appreciated! SuperDT 00:46, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Not much is known yet. I was watching the webcast at the time, and the rocket appeared to collapse downwards before the fireball occured. This would imply that the cause of the failure could be engine underperformace, or a structural failure of the launch platform. There was too much smoke around to say for certain. Other possibilities are that it fell over, which would have occured if one of the clamps failed to hold the rocket down whilst the engine built up thrust, or the rocket suffered a structural failure at the bottom, and imploded. The latter is unlikley because I would have expected the explosion to occur sooner. If it had fallen over, I would have expected to see a change in the pattern of the exhaust flames, as the engine was still running up until it exploded. Therefore, it is most likley that it fell into the sea before it exploded. Having said this, it is too early to tell. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 12:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question

How do you get the "userpage" and "talk" lines in your signature so small? I have tried to no avail. I hope there is a way that you can just you the little squiggly lines and won't have to sign it each time. Let me know how. Thanks and Stay Warm....SVRTVDude 02:56, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Go into preferences, and change the "Signature" box. My signature is: <font color="#116655">'''GW_Simulations'''<sub>[[User:GW Simulations|<font color="#000000">User Page</font>]] | [[User talk:GW_Simulations|<font color="#000000">Talk</font>]]</sub></font>.

Just change it to suit yourself. You need to check the box that says "Raw Signature" as well, then you can add that signature in the normal way, with four tidles (~~~~). --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 13:27, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] THEMIS Launch

I just got home from watching the launch a few minutes ago and was amazed to see that you've already got the updates taken care of. Way to go! If I took a still shot of the launch I could have uploaded it, but I shot video for this one instead. It was a beautiful launch. Crystal clear sky, beautiful sunset. Amazing! Fl295 00:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

It was a pretty good launch. The Delta II is a great old rocket, and it will be a shame to see it go when it retires in a few years. I actually thought the update speed was a little slow on this one - due to technical problems, I couldn't get onto Wikipedia to update anything until about 10 - 15 mins after the launch. Wait until a manned flight launches, they usually get updated within seconds. Regarding your video, why don't you upload that instead. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 00:28, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I've never uploaded video, I should look into it. My video of this launch got messed up. My elbow bumped into a person that was standing next to me and I lost the target. I wasn't able to re-acquire it in a reasonable time so I gave up. I've got the first minute or so, but after that it was lost. Thankfully there's supposed to be something like 14 more launches from the Cape this year, I'm going to try to photograph or tape as many as I can. Fl295 00:35, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Aye there's loads, take a look at 2007 in spaceflight. As for the video, it's dead simple. Create an account on Wikimedia Commons, then just go to the upload page, and upload it as something like Image:THEMIS launch.ogg (The Image: prefix is important). Just cut off the bit you don't want. I envy you. I've always wanted to see a launch live, but I'm kind of at a disadvantage because I live in the UK. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 00:42, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
That's a long way to travel to see a launch! Although there were some people in the crowd that I was chatting with before it went up that were from Germany and a couple from Norway. They both just happened to be here on holiday and got to see it just by chance. They were much in awe. It was a great shot. If you like, I could E-Mail you the video that I shot. Fl295 00:48, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I nearly got to see a Shuttle once, but it got delayed. I think it was because of the STS-93 incident. Regarding the video, how big is it? (I think there's a size limit on my E-mail). If it's bigger than 5mb, can you zip it down to that sort of size. Thanks. My address is GW_Simulations@yahoo.co.uk --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 00:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
My video is on it's way to you. It's less than 4MB. Hope you enjoy it, even though it's pretty rough. The sound is the best part! Fl295 01:12, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
It's great. I didn't realise they let you get so close to the rocket - certainly all the Shuttle crowdline videos show the rocket as a small dot. I like the way these videos give a sense of the atmosphere amongst the crowd. You can't get that with the official videos. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 01:18, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, LC17 (The Delta II launch complex) is only three miles from public access at Jetty Park at Port Canaveral. That's where I was at, on the fishing pier at Jetty Park. I believe that it is the closest that the general public can get to a launch of any type from KSC or the Cape. The exclusion area for the shuttle, Atlas 5, and Delta 4 is a few miles farther. That's one of the reasons that I enjoy the Delta II launches so much. They're not the most powerful or loudest, but being so close is a really amazing experience. Fl295 01:27, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
They're pretty spectacular launches on the webcast. The rocket gets enveloped in a plume of smoke before starts to rise through it. There's a video on the NASA site if you're interested - here. You'll need an MP4 codec though. Another video is available at http://www.nasaspaceflight.com. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 01:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Those links are great! I wanted to tape the SRB jettison and them falling back to Earth, it was clearly visible but I'd already given up on the tape by that time. The SRB's falling are neat to watch, you can see them for a long time. So, when are you gonna come across the pond to watch a launch? Fl295 01:44, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I hope to get away at some point, not for a couple of years though. I'm pretty busy this year, and probably next. After that, who knows. I'd like to try and go sometime in the next 3 years to see a Shuttle before it is retired. The real problem is that these dates keep changing. I could fork out hundreds on a holiday, only to get there, and find the rocket's been delayed to the day I go home, or to be more precise, about five seconds after I board the plane, so I can't watch it live, or on the web - that's about my luck. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 01:49, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, the shuttle is especially unreliable when you're trying to plan a launch day visit. I would highly reccomend it though, even though it is a pain to try to match schedules, watching a shuttle go up is like nothing else on this planet. I've lived here on the Space Coast for several decades, I've seen most launches, from the Apollo moon rockets to today, and I can tell you, the only launch that is more impressive than the shuttle is the Saturn V. The Shuttle is an amazing thing to watch go up. I was in High school when Challenger went up on it's last mission. The entire class was outside watching the launch. I was in disbelief for a few moments. I knew that something bad had happened, but when I saw the SRB fly off to the south, I thought that maybe it was some sort of crew rescue capsule or something I was just a kid. When Columbia was re-entering over Texas, I was out shopping at garage sales on that Saturday morning. I didn't even realize that there was a landing planned. When I started to hear what was going on I went home and watched the TV for the rest of the day, sort of like 9/11. Fl295 02:07, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I think a lot of the delays are just being too cautious, and to safe, but then again, can you be too safe? Complacency has been a factor in most space disasters. Anyway, it's been nice talking to you. It's gone 2 in the morning here, so I think I'd better call it a night. Thanks for the video. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 02:14, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Aviation proposal

There is currently a proposal to create an Aviation WikiProject, which would serve to clarify how all the aviation related projects relate, and help with interproject editing. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aircraft#Proposal_Recap for how the projects hierarchy. Part of the reorganization proposes that, because of its very limited scope, WikiProject Red Bull Air Race World Series become a task force of Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aviation. For an idea of how task forces work, take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history. They have a number of task forces, listed here. As described by them, "task forces are informal groups of editors gathered for collaborative work on a particular topic within the field of military history; all project members are encouraged to participate in any that interest them." The benefit of such a system it that the sub-topics have all the resources of the overall project at their disposal. For instance, the Military history project banner, is placed on every military history page, and the related task forces are listed at the bottom of it. All military history related articles are thereby joined under one roof. I just happened to stumble upon your project, and had until now never realized it existed. By joining forces with another project you will benefit from increased exposure. If you have any ideas or comments, please join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 02:28, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar it up

The Technology Barnstar
Because every time I see GW Simulations on the edit history, I know the page just got better. Miguel Cervantes 05:41, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 13:37, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Martian geography project proposed rename

Hi. It has been suggested that the project "Martian geography" be rename to "Mars" in order to increase its scope and increase its usefulness. If you have an opinion concering this, could you leave it on the talk page, or on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Space/Reorganisation? Thanks. Lunokhod 22:07, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that is my own proposal. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 13:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You: president – I: secretary

The eminent discussion on WikiProject Space/Reorganisation is parted in two, Your original one, and my separate proposal ejection brain-storming (User:Rursus/Proprs and User:Rursus/Proprs new). I wish to coordinate, so I elect you to the role of president between us two, and I assist with secretary works. So, firstly: is that OK? And secondly: how do we do to coordinate Current Structure with (User:Rursus/Proprs and User:Rursus/Proprs new)? I can answer tomorrow 16 UT. Rursus 12:35, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Do we need to have a formal structure. I'd prefer to keep it informal, on a peer-to-peer basis, as in the rest of Wikipedia. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 13:46, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
No, it was a simile and just a proposal that our separate lines of discussion be merged (in order for the Community to properly reach a conclusion), and that, since you opened the topic have the first say of where to propose, kind of. There's no need to have formal functionaries - that would be slightly inappropriate for volunteer spare-time hobbies - but natural informal leadership is nothing wrong (first-say-principle and authority by competence). Rursus 14:16, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Okay, that's fine. As for your other question, what are you trying to do with the two pages that you want to "co-ordinate"? Please could you be more specific. Thanks --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 14:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, the trouble is getting a consensus about the structure on the reorganization talk page. Either we try to discuss until consensus is reached (preferrable), which means that "my" hierarchy proposals must be explicitly removed one by one – some qualities to be merged into the Current structure or rejected by whole, or otherwise there must be votes on each proposal. At some point, there must be a call for decision – do you have any idea of how it's going to look like when time is due? Rursus 18:28, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
I think I would favour option 1, as for when a decision is made, my policy is to wait for all discussion to stop, and then see what has the most support. Other people's policies may differ. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 21:12, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
OK, by me. But now I'm "screaming" (= red and yellow) for a decision on the WikiProject Space/Reorganisation. Nothing's happening in c:a one week, and I'm becoming impatient with unmessing the project pages. Rursus 17:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Martian geography to Mars

could you post a comment on the Mars section of Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Space/Reorganisation, we are one voice short of consensus, regards, sbandrews 14:03, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Apollo Applications Program

Hi,

You moved Apollo Applications Program to Apollo Applications program with a lowercase p per WP:NC. Wondering which naming convention you're referring to, as program is capitalized in the article, is part of the program's TLA, and otherwise appears to be part of the program's proper name. Potatoswatter 05:53, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I forget, it was a minor move, a few months ago. It should be noted that Space Shuttle program is the same. To be honest, I don't really care whether it is capitalised or not, so feel free to take it to WP:RM if you want to. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 13:29, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] 199x in Spaceflight

Hello GW Simulations. You are doing a great work with the "199x in Spaceflight" articles. To help ease your workload, I've pre-manufactured "Deep Space Rendez-vous in 19xx" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Necessary_Evil#Deep_Space_Rendez-vous_in_19xx Regards Necessary Evil 18:32, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm working (offline) on the 1996 list at the moment, so those are useful. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 21:12, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aviation Newsletter delivery

The March 2007 issue of the Aviation WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 16:10, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 21:12, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
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