Talk:Guyver: The Bio-Boosted Armor

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Contents 1 Differences 2 Kikakugaihin 3 Plot 4 Malmot 5 External links 6 official names 7 What happens to this manga 8 Request for Note Removal 9 Zoalord country locations?? 10 Link - the guyver solution

[edit] Differences

Whats the difference between the three different Guyver suits?

answer- the only real difference between guyvers is the aesthetics. the way they look is derived from the personality of the wearer.

Actualy, one could speculate that the differences relate to the environs in which the units were first activated. Unit 1 was activated in a clearing on a clear day by a blue lake... Unit 2 in a small lab that was seemingly lit in a strange fasion (it seems to be kept under an ultraviolet light...) Unit 3 was most likely activated in a dark room, while Unit 0 was surrounded predomentantly by a jungle-type environment.

Hm, both make sense. I mean Sho's a normal kid, and Unit 1 manifests as a fairly nomral looking suite of armor, all things considered, it fits around his form and has the basics. It's "functional." Lisker is a career soldier, yet fairly straightforward guy, and Unit 2 manifested much like Unit 1, but slightly "edgier" and with larger blades. Agito has this brooding "darl angel" mentality, waging a secret war to both free the world and to tale over himself, and Unit 3 manifests as the most gothic-looking of them all. But to answer the original question, there is no other difference. The difference between individual Guyver's is that of the host, not the unit. The unit multiplies a human hosts combat potential by a certain amount, so the effectiveness lies with the wearer. If Haley Joel Osment got his hands on a Guyver Unit, he'd be terribly powerful. But if Jet Li got a Unit of his own, he could take him down no problem. What was Tetsuo's line?

"If the unit's are the same, then the advantage goes to the better trained warrior." Or something like that, I don't remember word for word. Onikage725 18:05, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I think the only sensible thing to say would be that Guyver units just look different from each other. I removed the bit from the article. --KJ 04:01, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

due to recent translations of the Visual datafiles book, it has become apparent that the guyver does indeed configure itself based upon the mental state of the host. this has led to minor differences in the units configuration hence giving the more aggresive agito makishima an extra pair of hi frequency swords (among other differences).

I'm very skeptical about this. Agito and Shō both seem to think it's more a question of willpower, judging from volume 24. --Kjoonlee 12:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kikakugaihin

the Japanese rendering of which is kikakugaihin (lit. "not standardized" or "not to specification" but is usually (and erroneously) rendered as "out of control")....................... could do with some elaboration. have been in touch with the guyver community for a LONG time and never EVER heard of this term. where did this information originate?

It comes from the manga. Murakami probably explained it to the gang near the mountain, before Guyot showed up. --KJ 03:51, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Yep, he did, in volume 4, episode 26. Oswald Lisker mentions it too, in volume 1, episode 3. --KJ 04:00, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

The soundtrack for Guyver: Out of Control (which was never realeased in the US) has the title written in English as well, and it is translated as Guyver: Unit Out of Standardized. Onikage725 11:52, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plot

The current content in the plot section isn't really a summary of the plot; it just seems like an explanation of the back-story, at first glance. --KJ 03:49, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Malmot

Malmot probably isn't a proper noun. It's probably a romanization of the Japanese word for guinea pig/test animal, マルモット and モルモット. (Marumotto and morumotto.) --KJ 07:29, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

thats probably very true.. in the datafiles, he is listed as 'test type'. also, in the tv series, murakami says he was involved in the malmot project. or thats is what it sounds like. thats good information!

It comes form the English word marmot, so that's probably the way it should be spelled. Evan1975 04:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links

The external links were removed. why? these are a very rich source of knowledge for people who want to know about guyver. they are necessary.

[edit] official names

the official names are printed in the original manga for many characters. YET, they keep being changed to other versions... if whoever changes them is reading this, can you please stop. obtain the oficial sources and then you will see the official names.

Agreed; however there are a few characters that have conflicting spellings. Rienzi/Li Yan-Tui being the most glaring. Evan1975 05:00, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

yes! thats the one that winds me up the most! because I have done a LOT of research into it. it's the fault of the visual datafiles not obtaining a proper translation for it. a proper translation shows that the kana can't possibly be translated as rienzi. it is close... and I can see how it could be mistaken but thats what it is. a mistake. also another bit of evidence is the transformation call he uses when facing up to gigantic dark. the phrase he shouts is chinese. Drag-5 18:28, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What happens to this manga

It's been running for 21 years already. Even the much longer dragon ball took 11 years to end, Rurouni Kenshin 5 years, Samurai Kyo only 7 years. Why does the author take so long to produce this manga? In 21 years, there're only about 26 volumes. Anyone knows?

The author is very slow. The person who was in charge of Guyver at the original magazine, who is now the co-author, says Yoshiki Takaya is insanely slow when it comes to manga, and that he shouldn't have let Takaya's habits get worse. (I read this in an afterword from one of the more recent tankōbon volumes.) --Kjoonlee 07:20, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Quality over quantity in my opinion. do you see many manga look this nice, and have this much depth? the amount of historical references is stunning and the story is always very accurate with regards to science and physics with little to no plot holes. Drag-5.

What about it? What you say is true, and I agree, but still, it's extremely too slow to have an empathy with the author. Yes, i do see mangas as you said. One of them which I can remember is Kenshin. Does anyone know how the audiences feel to ward the slowliness of this manga? --S--

I don't know if there's previous research on that which we can use.

<true story>The ex-editor (now co-author) told Takaya that he'd give him a slot for a love comedy if he finished Guyver. I told that to my friend and he said, "Wow, he must really hate love comedies."</true story> --Kjoonlee 11:42, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

My Korean translation of volume 20 says, "이번에 우리 덕간서점에서 소년지를 발행하는데 「가면라이더」같은 만화를 그려주게. 그게 싫증이 나면 바로 중단하고 러브 코믹을 그리게 해 줄테니까". In English, it's "Tokuma Shoten is going to publish a shōnen magazine; draw us a manga like Kamen Rider. If you get tired of that, we'll let you stop right away and let you draw a love comedy." --Kjoonlee 06:50, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Note Removal

Currently, the Notes contain this line it in:

Guyver is commonly known as "awesome as hell robot shit"

Seeing as it's purely POV, removal of it would be prudent for one capable of doing such. The Chibi Kiriyama

looks like somebody already did it.Drag-5 17:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Zoalord country locations??

first off, it is a fact that cablarl khans area of command is saudi arabia. other than that we have no confirmed area of command for the other zoalords. add to that the fact that areas of command actually change throughout the manga. (example being shin moving to japan after purgstals defeat) where did this information come from? I strongly believe that it is simply speculation. in which case it does not belong here. Drag-5 19:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Link - the guyver solution

whoever keeps putting this link in, please do not do so. it is not useful for anybody looking for information on guyver. in time, the site may become a good resource, but as of this time, it is FAR from finished. it is a waste of time for anybody that follows that link. Drag-5 16:12, 21 February 2007 (UTC)