Talk:Guo Pu

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[edit] Removing Content

Eiorgiomugini, I have appreciated extra details you have added on many of the Chinese authors and literature. However, I am baffled by three practices you have consistantly pursued, especially for articles on ancient Chinese literature:

  • 1) Consistantly removing pinyin references, especially tonal references
  • 2) "Tidying Up" to remove characters (wiki's Chinese style does not prohibit their addition, and as I have noted on the talk page, they are very helpful for other reasons - please see).
  • 3) "Tidying Up" to remove formats (I am happy to attempt to conform to a wiki pattern (I am learning too!) but it has even cuts into information. For example, in the Guo Pu article, you removed the bullet points. The resulting format does not clarify the entry at all.
  • 4) Consistantly removing content? Not just the pinyin, or the format of an article you did not start, but you actually removed two referenced entries, without comment or explanation!
You are clearly attempting to upgrade many articles, which is fine, and appreciated. Please rethink your "formatting" strategy. The wiki community, and certainly not myself, we are not your enemy! The intent is to work together to produce usefully references informative articles. Please respect others contributions. mamgeorge 21:11, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Look please read the MoS of China-related articles, if a wikified term and has an article, please do not provide characters or romanisation again, not all of the computers does have Chinese installed, and they would be turn up nothing but garbages to other. Second the reason I removed the bullet points, was that most of those works does not have an articles nor they are understood well by the other. Again, pinyin (tones or numbers) is not necessarily when the title itself is romanisation as such. Eiorgiomugini 21:17, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Eiorgiomugini, This response baffles me more! Especially since you are including Wade Giles!. The MOS China articles clearly states (cut & pasted below!):

  • All encyclopedia entries whose title includes a Chinese name or term should include the relevant Chinese characters and hanyu pinyin representation.
  • Pinyin (necessary)
  • Wade Giles (generally unnecessary, except in cases of famous ancient Chinese personalities or literature)
You are right about adding characters; I am reducing that significantly (see, I am compromising!).
I would consider removing the extra two bulleted references (because I do not really care about them, and I do not have details for them at this time).
But the pinyin (WITH tone marks)! We gotta leave it in. I'll wait for your response but they SHOULD be added. Thanks for the dialog. mamgeorge 21:52, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
If you got to add something on the introductory line, at least use the proper templates ones, ch:, chin or chinese won't help much. With regarding about adding pinyin on the opening, please use the unicode method instead of the letters and numbers as states on the MoS, althought it might be odd and repetitious for me to do so when the article itself had romanisated with pinyin. Eiorgiomugini 22:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Waited a day; now adding pinyin. mamgeorge 14:44, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Just caught Eiorgiomuginis reply; thanks for the feedback. I agree to use the unicode method; as discussed in MOS China articles (MOS-CA). The solution may be to add the unicode pinyin at the very beginning of the Topic Introduction; as per the MOS-CA: Tǒpīc (characters) OK. I will make this the final revision. mamgeorge 17:28, 24 May 2006 (UTC)