User:Guettarda/old FAC
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FA candidate; promoted
[edit] Democratic Labour Party (Trinidad and Tobago)
I've been working on this article for a few months and it feels fairly complete and I think it is decently written, so I thought I would take a shot at putting it up for an FAC. On peer review I got a request for the party logo, but I can't find the symbol in the online or offline sources available to me. Guettarda 23:34, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Minor Objection- I would like to see more citations (sources) and in-text references. Otherwise, seems to be well-written, though I had to fix up a few grammatical mistakes. Keep up the good work! Flcelloguy 15:03, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Meighoo's work is fairly definitive (based on his PhD on TT politics) but I will look for some more refs. Guettarda 15:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Asking for references beyond those that have been used to write the article seems like intellecutal dishonesty to me. --nixie 03:11, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- In response to this I did find (and read) some additional sources which let me flesh out some parts of the article. Meighoo has his POV, Sudama another and Malik a third. Of course, it would be wrong to just add refs and not material. Guettarda 03:33, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I have to agree that just adding refs and not adding to the article would be unethical. However, what I was looking for was more references to verify all facts, make sure the article was balanced and NPOV, and make it more comprehensive. Now that the more references have been added and the article accordingly expanded/edited, I'm happy to support. Good work, Guettarda! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 21:29, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- In response to this I did find (and read) some additional sources which let me flesh out some parts of the article. Meighoo has his POV, Sudama another and Malik a third. Of course, it would be wrong to just add refs and not material. Guettarda 03:33, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Support. An additional photograph or two would make the layout more visually appealing, but I can understand if these are difficult to find. Details of the party's stances on specific issues (political position of Tobago vis-à-vis the "mainland", for instance) would also help, if available. Are there any membership statistics? Did the party have any auxiliary organizations (e.g., a "youth" group/wing, a "women's" group/wing, etc.)? This is already an excellent article overall, but details in these areas would help to better convey the DLP's impact on Trinidadian society. —Seselwa 17:06, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks. Good points - these things didn't really occur to me. Guettarda 17:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- A lot of the context of global politics is beyond my expertice. I don't have the framework of knowledge to hang it on - I could repeat what sources say, but I wouldn't know what was POV or NPOV. I have not found data on party membership. Membership tends to be confined to activists and the like in Trinidadian politics. I've done my best to address your concerns. There's more material to digest, but never enough time. Guettarda 03:33, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks. Good points - these things didn't really occur to me. Guettarda 17:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Support, comprhensive article on an interesting subject.--nixie 03:11, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
FL candidate; promoted
[edit] List of snakes of Trinidad and Tobago
I think this list meets the criteria for a Featured List, and it would be a good addition to the group. Guettarda 28 June 2005 03:40 (UTC)
- Support. Though the one last improvement I'd like would be fewer red links.
--Dmcdevit 28 June 2005 03:56 (UTC)
- Comment, yes, indeed the only thing that may hinder support votes is the number of red links. Image:PhoenixSuns 100.pngPhoenix2 28 June 2005 04:07 (UTC)
- I agree that you don't really want that many readlinks, but I think that the article is more valuable with the links than without them. Until and unless the articles about these species (or even the genera) get written, any list like this is going to be full of redlinks. What we need is a WikiProject:Snakes :) Guettarda 28 June 2005 04:22 (UTC)
- Support, I am a native of Trinidad and Tobago and found this list particularly interesting, will be even better when more articles are written on specific snakes. Image:PhoenixSuns 100.pngPhoenix2 28 June 2005 04:49 (UTC)
- I agree that you don't really want that many readlinks, but I think that the article is more valuable with the links than without them. Until and unless the articles about these species (or even the genera) get written, any list like this is going to be full of redlinks. What we need is a WikiProject:Snakes :) Guettarda 28 June 2005 04:22 (UTC)
- Support - Ian ≡ talk 28 June 2005 05:36 (UTC)
- Comment. It's a good list, but the criteria for inclusion mentions that there should be a majority of blue links. There are ~ 41 red and 6 blue and this figure is nowhere near the minimum criteria for inclusion. =Nichalp «Talk»= June 28, 2005 06:31 (UTC)
Oppose for the moment. Too many red links to meet the criteria. Other issues: (1) the lead needs work (at the moment it starts with a fragment of a sentence); (2) the notes at the end of each section really should be included in the tables, as each one relates to a specific snake - awkward from a formatting point of view, I know, but it would make it much more user-friendly. --OpenToppedBus - Talk June 28, 2005 08:40 (UTC)
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- Further to point 2, I've had a go at a possible new format on Talk:List of snakes of Trinidad and Tobago - comments welcome. OpenToppedBus - Talk June 28, 2005 08:58 (UTC)
- I have converted the notes at the bottom of the tables to hyperlinked footnotes. This removes them from the table while making them instantly available to readers. Guettarda 28 June 2005 23:59 (UTC)
- Excellent work - very happy to change my vote to support. OpenToppedBus - My Talk June 29, 2005 08:38 (UTC)
- I have converted the notes at the bottom of the tables to hyperlinked footnotes. This removes them from the table while making them instantly available to readers. Guettarda 28 June 2005 23:59 (UTC)
- Further to point 2, I've had a go at a possible new format on Talk:List of snakes of Trinidad and Tobago - comments welcome. OpenToppedBus - Talk June 28, 2005 08:58 (UTC)
- Support Now that the red links are gone, this looks pretty good to me. jimfbleak 29 June 2005 05:05 (UTC)
- Support. Great job. - Darwinek 29 June 2005 09:45 (UTC)
- Support. UtherSRG June 29, 2005 12:39 (UTC)
- Support. Dsmdgold June 30, 2005 15:20 (UTC)
- Support. Is List of birds of Trinidad and Tobago next in line? -- ALoan (Talk) 30 June 2005 18:20 (UTC)