User talk:Groink

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[edit] Thanks!

The image of the Apple CAT-II is much appreciated! Maury 12:05, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

But... "And, modem-only companies are not networking companies". I'm not sure this is entirely true. While at a full "geek level" definition it may be defendable, I think given any broader definition modems are indeed a form of networking. Maury 21:23, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
This is based on the current list of networking companies in that category. You don't see other modem-only companies like Hayes Microsystems such. Groink 03:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Oh I know, but I think that's a problem. Unless there is some other cat for modem companies? Maury 14:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Here's one thought: Novation was actually a telecommunications equipment company. Hayes Microsystems, Kentronix, HyperEdge, and many other companies are also considered telecomm equipment companies. Telecomm and networking, from an engineering perspective, are different. For example, a router is a networking product. The CSU/DSU that connects the router to the telco is a telecomm product. That's basically the distinction I have in mind. With that, you could possibly throw Novation into Category:Telecommunications equipment vendors. Groink 00:13, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Excellent suggestion! Maury 12:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Taiga Drama

Thanks for the edits! I am still trying to import the list over, and it is proving to be a bit hard (with personal life and all). Thanks! Arbiteroftruth 09:43, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] YA

Hey, saw you were putting the article up for deletion again. You have to finish the process by adding the third step to the log page so it shows up. And did you place it in the O (I think that's it) category for corporations? on camera 07:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, I added it to the log page. on camera 07:36, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! My first time doing this. Groink 07:45, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why I removed the YA Entertainment synopses

I'm being pro-active by writing the following explanation before a kim-chee drama fanatic starts flaming me for my edits. In summary, I removed all the synopses that were linked to YA Entertainment's web site. I did this per guidelines set by the official policy Wikipedia:Copyrights.

In case you don't have the time to read the Wikipedia Copyright article, here's a summary: You cannot just plagiarize an external web site and at the same time claim you received permission to use the information. It doesn't work like that in real-life. Your word is no good on Wikipedia - no one's going to believe you. If we were to allow you to post copyrighted material just because you said the owner said you could use it, we would have to make a huge effort to verify that claim, by e-mailing the owner of the material, browse through the external web site looking for licensing information... It's just a HUGE headache on the part of the other editors. The reason it is vital for Wikipedia to be clean of copyrighted material is because Wikipedia itself allows people, called downstreamers, to use its material on their own web sites. If DramaWiki, for example, copied the synopsis for Jumong from Wikipedia, DramaWiki would be indirectly violating copyright law because the synopsis was originally owned by YA Entertainment. Wikipedia does not want that sort of thing to happen.

Exactly how would a contributor properly use copyrighted material from an external web page for Wikipedia use? First, the material posted on Wikipedia must include the EXACT URL of the external web site from where the material came from. Then, on that external web site page, there must be a clause somewhere in the page that says something along the line of "WikipediaUser has permission to use the material on this web page for use on Wikipedia AND its downstream users."

A more formal way of obtaining permission and proving it would be to follow the guidelines explained in this Wikipedia document. It explains how to write the permission e-mail and how to forward the information to the Wikimedia Communications committee. Hope this information helps!

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