Talk:Grenada

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Free elections? Come on! Maurice Bishop, the "Marxist" terror, was the most popular leader in Grenadan history. Following the US invasion, a bunch of good British "Sir Xs" and "Lord Ys" won what were almost certainly rigged elections -- not that it matters, the Grenadans knew very well that if they elected leaders Reagan didn't like, he'd invade again in ten minutes -- and proceeded to clamp down on free speech, close radio stations, confiscate "subversive" literature, etc etc etc. It's a corrupt pseudo-democracy set up in line with American, not Grenadan interests.

Grenadan interests are not different than anyone elses, and that is to have their individual rights protected. Democracy cannot legitimize a government that violates rights. There is right and wrong even in the voting booth. Freedom and sufferage are not a license to do wrong.--Silverback 19:54, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Why does wikipedia take all its country information from the CIA, anyway?

Because it is in the public domain. However, it is up to us to make it more balanced and NPOV ...

What I want to criticize here is that the elections that gave M.B. the power are just called "elections" and the ones after the US invasion are called "free elections", without giving any evidence in what way they were more free than the previous ones ... But the use of "free" here could make the reader think the ones before were not free.

So I removed the "free".

--zeno 05:38 Feb 6, 2003 (UTC)

Bishop was never actually elected to power. He overthrew the Gairy government, and then was overthrown himself. "Most popular leader in history?" Hmmm . . . If so, why can't his party win any more elections?

Probably because it doesn't stand for what he stood for anymore, and because the people of Grenada fear being invaded again by the Colossus to the north if they go against its wishes. 24.3.178.63 19:06, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Is the mentionened COA correct (St-lucia?) Bemoeial 12:52, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC) The best time of my life in Grenada was when Bishop was running the island.

Contents 1 Hurricanes 2 Wikipedia:Caribbean Wikipedians' notice board 3 Independence 4 Spelling 5 Proposed WikiProject 6 POV 7 American students comment lacks NPOV

[edit] Hurricanes

Ivan struck here. I saw video of the damage in St. George's. --Patricknoddy 13:30, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)User:Patricknoddy --Patricknoddy 13:30, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)User talk:Patricknoddy 9:30 September 11, 2004 (EDT)

Ivan was a Category 3 when he struck Grenada. Pobbie Rarr 05:41, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Caribbean Wikipedians' notice board

I would like to announce the establishment of the Wikipedia:Caribbean Wikipedians' notice board. Anyone with an interest in the Caribbean is welcome to join in. Guettarda 1 July 2005 04:01 (UTC)

[edit] Independence

How can Grenada be independent if the queen of the UK is still considered the head of state? Can we at least point out the the "independence" is quasi?

The queen is also head of state of Canada and Australia, but nobody ever calls them "quasi independent" - it's just a ceremonial position.

Legally they are independant, they just share a head of state. The Queen is queen of many countries

Celiamaria 13:47, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling

The first historical mention of Grenada/Granada in the article has the 3 a spelling. Yet there seems to be no mention of a change. What gives? Kdammers 05:44, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed WikiProject

There is now a proposed WikiProject for the Caribbean area, including Grenada, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Caribbean. Interested parties should add their names there so we can determine if there is enough interest to start such a project in earnest. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:57, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV

Wow, this article is scary in how POV it is. Just look at how much of it is devoted to the invasion and how little devoted to the government pre invasion. The invasion should be made into a seperate section and scaled down considerably with a link to the main artcle at Invasion of Grenada and the History 1958 - 1984 expanded and rewritten to be much more neutral. I am adding this to my list of things to do and urge others to help. Russeasby 13:20, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Attempted to edit the Independence and Revolution section. Aaronhumes--206.27.244.160 15:56, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

The IP editor at 164.156.231.55 is actually working to make this article even more US centric POV, especially shameful to be doing so today while they celebrate their independance. I dont have one of those roll tools installed to roll back to the "Joseph Solis in Australia". Can someone else do it? This article is going in the wrong direction. NPOV is the goal or at least representing both views. Russeasby 19:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, I found a reasonalby easy way to do it Russeasby 19:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] American students comment lacks NPOV

There are numerous testimonials from the students who were at the University who claimed they were put under a 24 hour shoot on site curfew. This was claimed by both students and the US military who had taken reports. It's OK to be against the invasion, but there's been a resurgence of talk about Grenada because of the war in Iraq. After doing some research on the topic, it appears that a lot of the sources saying the students were experiencing some kind of island paradise situation is illegitimate when they clearly have their own angle (just like the US military.) Moral of the story, it's POV. That entire section shouldn't even be on this page, but on the invasion of Grenada page. This Time magazine article offers a more NPOV [1]--DevCharles 18:49, 5 March 2007 (UTC)