Talk:Greg Land

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[edit] Photo-referencing

Prove the allegations against Land, or I will remove the reference. Dyslexic agnostic 18:47, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

I know this isn't really a link that will be useful for the article itself but it shows where the allegations come from: side by side comparison. LauraOrganaSolo 12:44, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

There were references for the allegations, but the references section was broken. It's fixed now, I think the references are strong enough to allow the allegations to remain in the article. Brad T. Cordeiro 18:42, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I changed some of the wording in the Controversy section. In short, I think the beef against him is that his drawings are so suspect, you can find exact matches elsewhere. Of course, the problem is that I used like three different phrases to say "exact match." I wanted to express how well the outlines and composition match up between Land's art and the supposed references, but maybe I need better words to do so.

The only allegation against Land that can be proven is that he over-relies on photoreferences, which is, of course, plagiarism and something that beginning comic artists are forcefully warned against. The best Wikipedia can do is present the evidence and let people decide for themselves. The evidence against Land, I think, is pretty strong, so I wasn't afraid to use strong words; but, at the same time, we need to avoid using words like "swiped" (much as I thoroughly enjoy that word) or "has been accused," because the evidence against Land is crystal-clear.

("Tracing" is also suspect--my understanding is that a straight tracing from someone with no skill wouldn't achieve anything near Land's work--but "copying," while a bit inflammatory, is closer to the truth. Look at a professional police sketch artist, and you'll see that their sourced drawings match up just as well as Land's do. However, the "@$^!in' tracer" accusation does get thrown about the Internet a lot, so I suppose we should keep it as such.) 67.101.6.29 02:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)