Talk:Greater Slovenia

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This article was nominated for deletion on December 10, 2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

First web page says:

Finally, there have been in recent years calls for a Greater Slovenia that would include the whole of Istria and much of the Croatian littoral.

Maybe there were calls for part of Istria (border dispute on Dragonja and others), but much of the Croatian littoral is IMHO undocumented and big nonsense! --AndrejJ 16:14, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

All I can report is what I found through an English-language search. If a search in Croatian or Slovene (neither of which I speak) throws up contrary results, then you're most welcome to add them both as sources and into the article. Further, I'd suggest that if a web-journal contains an article talking about calls to incorporate the Croatian littoral, these calls are hardly "undocumented". They might be held by an unrepresentative fringe, but the fact that they are held is what's being talked about in the source. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:21, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Very Problematic Article

This article has just too many problems. First of all, many of its claims are totally unsourced. It is also fundamentally misleading, as it states "The main objective of the ideology is that all Slovenes would live in one country, with the surrounding lands which once belonged to Karantanians to be an enlarged Slovenia," and then mentions a number territories that were never a part of Karantania, including Istria and the Kvarner Gulf. The latter, for example, is not claimed in by any Slovenian nationalist and neither, for that matter (and despite a short reference in the Canak article), is Istria -- of course, a chunk of Istria is in Slovenia already, and there are a few voices saying that a border on the Mirna rather than on the Dragonja would have been more just, but that's not exactly the same as claiming the whole Istrian penninsula as Slovenian territory. And then there's the icing on the cake, this unsourced passage: "More extreme views suggest that a true Slovenian land should also incorporate: Upper Styria, Zgornja Štajerska (Austria); Friuli-Venezia Giulia Furlanija-Julijska Krajina (Italy); Eastern Lombardy, Vzhodna Lombardija (Italy); The Veneto, Benečija (Italy); Tyrol, Tirolska in its entirety (Italy and Austria); Salzburg, Solnograško (Austrian city on border with Bavaria); and Lower Pannonia, Spodnja Panonija as far remote as eastern Hungary." Whose views are these? When were they made? Are they the opinion of a single person / a small group of people, or a larger movement? This article needs urgent attention. As it is now, it's essentially useless. WorldWide Update 00:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I should add that even the statement "Greater Slovenia (Slovenian Velika Slovenija) is a term applied to certain radical trends within Slovenian nationalism" is problematic, considering that this term isn't really that common, as a quick Google search will confirm -- most references to "Velika Slovenija" are simply not about territorial claims. WorldWide Update 00:58, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I Agree!!--AndrejJ 06:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)