Talk:Great Red Spot
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[edit] Falling Moon
Theory: Could the GRS be caused by a moon that is slowly drawn in by Jupiters gravity, right now sitting in the upper "atmospherere", thereby causing the "storms"? I've thought about this for some time and needed to express it in some forum. I've searched the Internet and haven't found any support for my theory, but I needed to air it and therefore write theese lines. If you can dismiss or want to discuss the theory please contact me at 'clas@europe.com'.
An entertaining theory, but a moon that close to the atmosphere would be well within the Roche Limit, and be torn apart. -Peter
Going back to the idea of the Storm being caused by a falling moon; is it possible that the planet may have torn a moon apart and still have had a resulting storm? I don't know much about planets and i've read very little about the Roche Theory. But I was under the impression that had our moon, for some reason, come close enough to our planet it would have caused tremendous damage by means of storms, tidal waves, etc. I guess I'm asking if it's possible for Jupiter to have destroyed a moon after it was close enough to start a storm? As i said previously I don't know much about these topics at all, but any feedback would be appreciated. -Dan dan@mindfillstudios.com
Well, I'm afriad that your idea simply couldn't work. The idea of the "moon within the atmosphere" doesn't work for a number of reasons> First, assuming that a moon could exist within the atmosphere (which it couldn't) explain how it would cause a storm above it? I assume you thought that the planets rotation would cause the rotation of the storm, but that's beside the point. Furthermore, a moon simply couldn't exist within a planets atmoshpere. The Roche Radius isn't the least of the poor moons worries! If it wer that close, it couldn't possibly maintain "orbital" speeds because the atmosphere would slow it down. Orbit is acheived when an object travels at such speed that the rate at which it falls matches the curvature of the planet below it and thus the object perpetualy "falls" around the planet. Within the highly pressurized atmosphere of Jupiter, these speeds simply aren't possible. Sorry to blow your theory up. But it really wouldn't work. Sorry. The QBasicJedi 16:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
well, you all ahve to take into account that jupiter's atmosphere is not at all like ours. so if a moon couldn't possibly exist in our atmosphere, could it possibly exist in jupiter's. jupiter is such a dangerous planet that it is extremely difficult to explore. we don't know very much about this planet. so many things could be possible. for example could the gases on this planet be what cuases this storm? Gases mixing and swirling could cause such storms. the reactions of different gases could cause a reaction much like that of a volcano experiment. in the air this could cause massive storms.
NASA has studied Jupiter in detail via radar and other technologies. These studies were looking for other types of phenomena but would have revealed the presence of any solid object more than a few hundred yards across within the atmosphere. None was found.
There is no reason to believe the after-effects of a collision with a large object would remain visible in the atmosphere centuries later, or that they would involve storms at all. The 1994 impact of Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 created disruptions that lasted for months but deteriorated over time and never became storms. The Great Red Spot, in contrast, has been quite stable for at least the 340 years since it was first seen, and there is no reason to believe it was new even then.
[edit] Galileo?
The last paragraph says the the Red Spot was sighted by Galileo. This conflicts with the first paragraph, which assigns the discovery to Cassini or Hooke.
The first para would seem to be right. Is there any basis for an attribution to Galileo? It seems unlikely, given the quality of telescopes when Galileo was making his observations.Dandrake 06:25, 5 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Removed the reference, which seems to be wrong and has been defended by nobody.Dandrake 05:27, Dec 6, 2003 (UTC)
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Galileo is also the name of a probe which has sent us remarkable images of this Red Spot : http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/galileo/sepo/atjup/atmos/grs.html. Dandrake, I really think you should have let this paragraph be...
[edit] Earliest References
How do we know this? Or more specifically, can anyone tell me where exactly the earliest references to the GRS occur? I'd like to locate the original quotes, if possible. --Iustinus 18:17, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Oval BA
Added a link about http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/02mar_redjr.htm -24.19.161.152 08:31, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] How long will this storm last?
Okay, so how long will this storm last? It's already lasted over 300 years. Football (sport) 09:52, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Nope, it's been in existence for only 150 years. It was discovered in the 1840's.
[edit] First saw by.....
It was first observed by Cassini around 1665.
The main article on Jupiter says it was Galileo, which is right?--Skeev 19:30, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
No. The spot observed by Cassini in 1665 is not the same object as the GRS. Galileo did not report any spot in Jupiter. According to Chris Go, the first confirmed observation of the GRS is in the 1840s.
[edit] GA Re-Review and In-line citations
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[edit] Vandal!
Please lock this page! I caught a vandalist. See this edit by 24.150.203.82- you'll see the vandalism.--Evan(Salad dressing is the milk of the infidel!) 23:47, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Gemini Image
The Gemini image was taken on July 14, but released on July 20.
Jupiters moom Metis was dicovered by Snnyott 1979.
[edit] This article list at WP:GA/R for review and possible delisting of its Good Article status
This article list at WP:GA/R for review and possible delisting of its Good Article status. --Ling.Nut 19:15, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reversion
I reverted to a version three months ago to fix some vandalism that had occurred -- large-scale removals from the article. (I later edited in most changes that had taken place since.) This addresses many of the GA review concerns expressed; however, it does not address the lack of inline citations. I would encourage this page's editors to add those citations; I think this could certainly be retained as a GA if they were in place. Shimeru 22:09, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] first seen
Britannica says it was Hooke. Encarta seems to think so too. Of course, these are secondary sources, yet respectable. Was it really Cassini that first saw it? There should probably be some mention of Hooke, nonetheless.
[edit] GA delist
Article delisted, primary remaining reason is not enough refs and improper format of the ones there are. Article was under review over 3 weeks, plenty of time to fix.Rlevse 03:24, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Jupiter from Voyager 1.jpg
I'm scheduling Image:Jupiter from Voyager 1.jpg for a second round as POTD on April 28, 2007. The first time around, the POTD blurb talked about Jupiter, but I decided to focus it on the GRS instead. The only thing is, it's not in this article. Would we mind putting it in here somewhere? However, it seems superfluous to this article. The one saving grace it has is that it's false-color and there might be a reason for Voyager 1 to have taken this in false-color, but I don't know what that is, and the source page has no such information. If anyone could squeeze this into here and maybe indicate the significance of the false coloration, that would be really cool. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 17:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
