Talk:Great North Eastern Railway

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[edit] Route of East Cost Main Line

This article states that the East Coast Main Line (ECML) runs all the way to Inverness and Aberdeen, while the article for the ECML itself states it terminates at Edinburgh. Can anyone clarify this? --Colin Angus Mackay 23:07, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the ECML "proper" stops at Aberdeen. The line from Aberdeen to Inverness isn't officially classed as part of the ECML (and GNER's Inverness trains don't use that route anyway - they go via Stirling, Perth, and the Highland Main Line). Glasgow and Leeds aren't on the ECML either. AdorableRuffian 23:24, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
On the ECML page I've used a definition found in a Network Rail document. I'll update this page accordingly Dupont Circle 20:09, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reason for Name

Is it not more likely that GNER was chosen, not "for their similarity to LNER, the company that operated the route before British Railways was formed.", but instead for their similarity to Great Northern Railway, which ran from King's Cross to the North? Tompagenet 18:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It is probably a combination of the two. Willkm 17:05, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

GNER certainly play on the similarity to LNER (for example, using modified LNER posters in their advertising), but there's obviously an attempted link to the even older company there too. I've edited the article to mention both the GNR and the GER as LNER predecessors. FiggyBee 03:18, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I can see no evidence on the web that the full name exists as a legal entity or even in the way GNER refers to itself.

Not uncommon, Great North Eastern Railway will be the trading name, one (train operating company) is legally London Eastern Railways or something like that. I don't know the reason for it, but it is nothing to stress over. Thryduulf 23:22, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Train times

I see the purpose of including the frequency of trains to various stations, but I wonder about the appropriateness of including the exact departure and arrival times, as these seem to me very prone to frequent changes, and therefore perhaps not quite encyclopædic. Does anyone else have any thoughts about this matter? David Arthur 15:19, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What's a TOC?

Sorry, I just couldn't see an explanation or link to an explanation for this acronym, despite its repeated use in the article. Zzrbiker 03:15, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] use of Drawn by in fleet details

This is an old fashioned and technically incorrect way to describe the method of train propulsion. The generally accepted industry term is "hauled" when the 225 is leading and "propelled" when the train is led by the non-powered driving van. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leaky caldron (talkcontribs) 21:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Update needed

GNER has been stripped of its franchise:- see

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30400-13556829,00.html


Someone should edit the page so that it reflects the current status

[edit] "East Coast"

I can remember about the time of Privatisation, the ECML service was re-branded "East Coast" with a logo like the one used at Video 125 (www.video125.co.uk), but can anyone remember if it was re-branded before or after Sea Containers took over? It may be worth adding if anyone can find a reference. 82.26.191.83 01:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)