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[edit] topchubashev

I have updated Topchubashev entry. please have a look. thanks for any comment. Elsanaturk 16:05, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Turkic speaking

Salam. Although I'm completely Persian but I agree with you on Safavids are Turkic speaking language. Although they used Persian as their cultural and political languages.

I suggest to read Lewis qutation:"The center of the Islamic world was under Turkish and Persian states, both shaped by Iranian culture. The major centers of Islam in the late medieval and early modern periods, the centers of both political and cultural power, such as India, Central Asia, Iran, Turkey, were all part of this Iranian civilization. Although much of it spoke various forms of Turkish, as well as other local languages, their classical and cultural language was Persian."[1] --Sa.vakilian 19:31, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I can help you If you have problem with Persian. I try to be just and obey WP:Verifiability.--Sa.vakilian 06:00, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paytakaran

I've written a reply to you at Talk:Paytakaran#Grandmaster, a question concerning 1a. The Transhumanist   05:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] panturkist+panturanist issues

Hi, Grandmaster, I have a certain deal, what do you think, we should gather together all our arguments against panturk+panislamist accusations of User:Azerbaijani and his biased sources, because as I see all our arguments are dispersed among various talkpages, and when all these dispersed arguments would be collected, I do not know how, but, some among you, experienced user would request for mediation. because this guy has a certain intention to distort azerbaijani pages, and no talkpages can stop him/her from his "activities". so i think the only way to stop it by wikipedia administration I'll send this message to other wiki azeri users Elsanaturk 19:29, 17 February 2007 (UTC) Elsanaturk 20:26, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Beylaqan

Neither Beylaqan (town) nor Beylagan (town) (see Beylagan) have their own article. Perhaps such articles could help in relation to the Paytakaran dispute. Then links could be provided to them in context within your draft. If you create these, please be careful how you apply synonyms to the places - it may be best to provide any alternate names in the body of the article and not as parenthetical annotations following the lead word, as they might be presented out of context when provided as direct synonyms). The Transhumanist   13:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

That might be a good idea, but still I think that the new article should be linked to the article about Paytakaran. Grandmaster 13:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Once the article(s) on the towns are created, you can propose their addition as links to Paytakaran. The Transhumanist   13:29, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I already created a stub, please see a link in your first post. Grandmaster 13:33, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Please see Beylagan (town). Grandmaster 13:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I thought Paytakarn (city) was in ruins a few miles away. The Transhumanist   13:56, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
It is. The ruins are a few miles away from the modern city of the same name. Grandmaster 14:02, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
The same name? But the modern city doesn't have the name Paytakaran, does it? The Transhumanist   14:07, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
No, it is called Beylegan. The name of Paytakaran existed in pre-Islamic times. After Islamization the name of the city was spelled as Beylegan/Baylaqan. Grandmaster 14:09, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Biographies

The proper format for the birth place on biographies is "city, country". I am sure you know this already , because I have seen you change the place of birth of many historic figures from Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan. --Mardavich 08:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

If you look at it in historic perspective, there was no country called Iran or Persia back then. So according to the same requirements we should say Ardabil, Ak Koyunly state. I think Iranian Azerbaijan is ok, it says that it is in Iran. I don't understand what your problem is with word "Azerbaijan"? Grandmaster 08:14, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
What is in Iran today is Iran, "city, country" is the proper format. Remember there was no country named Azerbaijan like 20 years ago either, so by your logic, the place of birth of all the famous Azeris should be changed to Soviet Union, and Nagorno-Karabakh should be used as the place of birth of anybody born in that region. --Mardavich 08:27, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
According to that logic it should indeed say Azerbaijan SSR, USSR. Please explain what is so wrong with mentioning Iranian Azerbaijan, that you remove it from many pages? Grandmaster 08:36, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
There is nothing wrong with Iranian Azerbaijan, it's a region and the term should be used in the proper context, the proper format for the place of birth on biographies however is "city, country". If you don't want to follow that format, then you'd be contradicting yourself if you keep changing Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan on the biographies of other people. That would be flip-flopping. --Mardavich 08:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't mind, but it should be in historical perspective. Ardabil, Ak Koyunlu state. There was no country called Iran at that time. Grandmaster 08:48, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Actually, the state had been called Iran, since the time of the Samanid dynasty, by all the rulers from the "The Great Seljuks of Iran" to Timurids. There is historical evidence to prove this, such as coins. --Mardavich 09:26, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Ak Koyunlu. Plus, I still see no reason to remove the word Azerbaijan from the birthplace of Ismail. Wiki rules do not prohibit to mention Azerbaijan. Grandmaster 10:27, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
It's about proper and common format. Otherwise, Wiki rules do not prohibit using Nagorno-Karabakh instead of Azerbaijan either. --Mardavich 10:33, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Show me the rules, please. Grandmaster 10:39, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Soviet

What do you think about this is it wrong too? "Armenian leaders remain preoccupied by the long conflict with Muslim Azerbaijan over Nagorno-Karabakh, a primarily Armenian-populated region, assigned to Soviet Azerbaijan in the 1920s by Moscow." Artaxiad 11:25, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Why don't you check these sources: User:Grandmaster/Karabakh. Grandmaster 11:29, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Arbitration

I have opened an arbitration case regarding the current editing dispute you've been involved in. Please make a statement at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Armenia-Azerbaijan concerning the conflict with the other parties listed. Thanks. Dmcdevit·t 10:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

You may add additional parties. Fred Bauder 15:58, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Azeris

Actually, I wrote to Tajik and told him not to use Armenians, but to instead say Peoples of the Caucasus. We could use Caucasian Albanians as well as that would also be accurate. I'm fine with either/or as we weren't going to settle on Armenians so don't worry. Cheers.Tombseye 22:30, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arran and C.A

Both are also Iran related topics. I did not get myself invovled in the Armenia-Azerbaijan Republic edit wars. I'd appreciate it if you removed my name from the list. Its none of my business and I wasnt involved in the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict.Azerbaijani 18:28, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This might help you

I don't think you understand what the ArbCom is looking for, dragging many other users will do nothing else than getting it refused. Members don't have to be on the list to be involved, they can regardless be brought in the involved parties after the case has been accepted. Also, some edit warrings are not enought material for the case to be accepted so it will do you no good to include every Armenian editors and then adding Iranian editors too. Fad (ix) 18:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:

Nothing, if its a violation than it is Baku has been uploading so many. Artaxiad 16:04, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problem at Azeris

One guy seems bent upon screwing up the article single-handedly. You might want to check it out and help stop him. Tombseye 23:48, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey GM. Thanks for reverting the article. I don't know how long it will last as people seem bent upon ruining it even though it's a featured article and was written after a concensus was reached. Tombseye 15:17, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 18:20, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History of Nagorno-Karabakh

To User:ROOB323 and User:Grandmaster: please be careful. If you start up reverting each other again, this page will be reprotected, which I'm sure is the last thing either of you want. --Robdurbar 09:19, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Notice of Arbitration Committee injunction

The Arbitration Committee has adopted a temporary injunction in the case of Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan, in which you have been named as a party. The injunction provides: Until the conclusion of this case, all parties are restricted to one content revert per article per day, and each content revert must be accompanied by a justification on the relevant talk page. Violators may be blocked for up to 24 hours. The case remains open for the submission of evidence or proposals. This notice is given by a Clerk on behalf of the Arbitration Committee. Newyorkbrad 00:18, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

You are in violation of the parole with both of these edits [2] [3]. You must provide a rationale for your reversions or you may be blocked. Dmcdevit·t 18:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
On second thought, this is clearly two reverts on that same page: [4] [5], neither of which is explained on the talk page, in combination with the lack of rationale on the other page. I have blocked you for 24 hours. Dmcdevit·t 19:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I came here to also give you a warning regarding this matter. Please be sure that you are in full compliance with the temporary injunction that has been issued. Violations not only may lead to a block now, but also will not favorably impress the arbitrators at the time they make their final decision. Newyorkbrad 18:31, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I made only one rv on Khachkar destruction article. That article is nominated for deletion, and it cannot be moved until AfD is complete. I provided explanation in edit summary. I also deleted the line that made baseless territorial claims, but that one does not count as an rv, it was just an edit with explanation in edit summary. The first two reverts you mention are also explained, Safavid dynasty is not related to Azerbaijan - Armenia and it was just an IP vandalism. And I provided a very detailed explanation in edit summary for rv on Erivan khanate. Could you please lift the block, I would like to contribute to arbcom evidence page? Grandmaster 20:44, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Request for unblock referred to Dmcdevit for comment. Newyorkbrad 20:47, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Grandmaster 20:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Goltz

Goltz is a highly reliable source. Read my message on the talk page of Rasulzade.Azerbaijani 18:11, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kerimov21.jpg

Are you really the owner of this site? [6] Artaxiad 04:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not, but the guy who granted permission is. Why don't you leave alone Azerbaijan related images? Grandmaster 05:35, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Fine, but if I find an image I mark it, I haven't marked any these upcoming days, it doesn't make me racist just because I do if it really offends you I'll stop now, we can always find new images. Artaxiad 05:38, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tell Parishan to stop

Grandmaster, we're trying to resolve our differences not make things worse. User:Parishan, who I know you're in contact with, has recently done just that by adding scores of controversial information on the Azeris in Armenia article without consulting Armenian or third party users first. Tell him to stop, please. I'm tired of this. -- Aivazovsky 13:48, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

He made legitimate edits, which were fully referenced. Please rv yourself and discuss problems at talk. This is not the first time you undo the edits by other users without any valid reason. Grandmaster 13:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I will only revert myself and work constructively to neutralize the article. I still want you to tell Parishan not to edit sensitive topics at this crucial time in the manner he did with the Azeris in Armenia article. -- Aivazovsky 14:14, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
You can tell him yourself, I have no control over how people edit. Let's work on improvement of the article, the topic needs to be covered and it was actually started not by Parishan, but by Artaxiad. Grandmaster 17:17, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Parishan won't read anything I write because I'm an Armenian. He already accused me of being a "liar" on another occasion. Because you are an Azeri, you have leverage over him. Besides, according to your talk page, you've been in e-mail contact with the guy already.
Also, I don't remember doubting that Artaxiad created the article. If I did, then I apologize. All the best, Aivazovsky 20:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your arbitration evidence

Thank you for taking the time to present detailed evidence in the arbitration case. However, your statement right now is very long and the arbitrators have indicated they prefer shorter presentations. I would request that you try to reduce your statement to an overall length of about 1000 words. Thank you. Newyorkbrad 23:48, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re:Paytakaran

See Talk:Paytakaran#Unprotection.

The Transhumanist   11:46, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Armenian terrorism

I think there is enough material to start a category for Armenian terrorism. It starts with the Ottoman Bank Takeover, then there is the Yıldız Attempt, assassination of Talat Pasha, then diplomats and civilians murdered by ASALA and other Armenian organizations. I want to know what you think about the category.--Doktor Gonzo 14:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Huseyn Javid on DYK for 11 March 2007

Updated DYK query Did you know? was updated. On 11 March 2007, a fact from the article Huseyn Javid, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thank you for the nomination. — ERcheck (talk) 21:13, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nakhichevan again

Grandmaster, please don't change the disputes section on the Nakhichevan article especially in relation to the khachkar issue. This is the compromise version from February 2006, agreed upon by you and several other users. Plus, I also don't want to start "World War III" on that article especially when we're trying to iron out other disputes. I ask that you just leave it as it is. We need to preserve a delicate peace on this article. -- Aivazovsky 20:25, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

In that case you need to stop changing compromise version too. The compromise did not mention IWPR and Azerbaijan barring Europarlament delegation, etc. We should either leave it as it was, or change it to include more info. Grandmaster 20:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I will remove IWPR, but we should keep the information on the Europarlament delegation as it is an important development to the story. Sound good? -- Aivazovsky 20:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
No, I don't think so. I think that we should decide if we stick to compromise or update the info. Plus that barring info comes from an Armenian site anyway. Grandmaster 20:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Here's an article from The Independent, a British publication that confirms the fact that the European Parliament was barred from investigating the site. I don't think we need to revamp the section as it stands now. We should keep the barring line intact as it is an important development to the story. I cut IWPR from the article, so we need not worry about that anymore. I also don't want to get involved in another major Armenian-Azerbaijani dispute. It'll be a waste of our time and it's just not worth it. Talk to Khoikhoi, our friendly neighborhood admin, he'd probably agree with me on this. Kindest regards, Aivazovsky 21:02, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: RfAr

Since the case has an injunction, maybe it's best to ask for a motion to add parties? (Try leaving messages for ArbCom members) - Penwhale | Blast the Penwhale 06:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I'll do that. Grandmaster 06:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I've asked for a 1RR limitation on all related article, just so you know. - Penwhale | Blast the Penwhale 07:33, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. I think it makes good sense. Grandmaster 07:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Just to let you know that Vartanm has been added to the case by Mackensen here. - Penwhale | Blast the Penwhale 04:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arbitration

Info The arbitration committee has asked that evidence presentations be kept to around 1000 words and 100 diffs. Your presentation is way over. Please edit your section to focus on the most relevant evidence. You should be able to present evidence of disruptive editing, personal attacks, or other matters for arbitration with a few representative diffs of the best (or worst) examples. It is also important to keep in mind that Arbitration is meant to solve disputes, or failing that, to remove disputing editors. Arbitration is not simply another page to continue your battles. Thank you. For the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 02:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Compromise on Nakhichevan

It's clear that we need to revise this, so here's my proposal:

Armenia has accused the government of Azerbaijan of destroying historic Armenian headstones (khachkars) at a medieval cemetery in Julfa, presenting photos and video in support of these charges.[1][2][3] Azerbaijan denies there has been destruction despite a confirmation by the IWPR.[4] According to the Azerbaijani Ambassador to the US Khafiz Pashayev, the videos and photographs that have surfaced show some unknown people destroying some mid-size stones and is not clear of what ethnicity those people are. Instead, the ambassador asserts that the Armenian side started a propaganda campaign against Azerbaijan to divert attention from the destruction of Azerbaijani monuments in Armenia.[5]
The European Parliament has formally called on Azerbaijan to stop the demolition as a breach of the UNESCO World Heritage Convention.[6] According to its resolution regarding cultural monuments in the South Caucasus, the European Parliament "condemns strongly the destruction of the Julfa cemetery as well as the destruction of all sites of historical importance that has taken place on Armenian or Azerbaijani territory, and condemns any such action that seeks to destroy cultural heritage." [7] In 2006, Azerbaijan barred the European Parliament from inspecting and examining the ancient burial site.[8]

References:

  1. ^ World Watches In Silence As Azerbaijan Wipes Out Armenian Culture, The Art Newspaper. May 25, 2006.
  2. ^ Tragedy on the Araxes, Archaeology. June 30, 2006.
  3. ^ Armenica.org: Destruction of Armenian Khatchkars in Old Jougha (Nakhichevan)
  4. ^ Azerbaijan: Famous Medieval Cemetery Vanishes
  5. ^ Will the arrested minister become new leader of opposition? Azerbaijani press digest, REGNUM News Agency. January 20, 2006.
  6. ^ European Parliament Resolution on the European Neighbourhood Policy - January 2006
  7. ^ European Parliament On Destruction of Cultural Heritage
  8. ^ Azerbaijan 'Flattened' Sacred Armenian Site, The Independent. May 30, 2006.

Hopefully, this will work.

All the best, Aivazovsky 19:46, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Please propose it on talk of Nakhichevan. I think it is OK in general, but we need also add info on UNESCO visit, and a few other things. Grandmaster 20:49, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I'd rather discuss this with you than get other users (such as Adil) involved. We have worked together before and I believe that we should come up with a compromise first and then present it on the Nakhichevan talk page. In any case, show me what you think should be added and we'll go over it. I believe Adil suggested the information on UNESCO. I'm opposed to including that unless we have a neutral source confirming it. I believe Adil only used the TURAN Information Agency (an Azerbaijani source) as a reference. I haven't found anything more on this. Kindest regards, Aivazovsky 22:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Ok, let's agree on compromise and then present it to others. Grandmaster 07:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Shall I post this on the Nakhichevan discussion page for approval? -- Aivazovsky 20:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, please do. Grandmaster 20:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Meh, I decided that we should wait a bit on it first. -- Aivazovsky 10:45, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I posted it on the talk page again, hopefully this will work. -- Aivazovsky 00:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

where is the compromise? Azerbaijan NEVER barred European Parliament (EP) -- it barred a few MPs who do not speak for the 750+ chamber that EP is! They were not the speaker or vice-speaker of the EP, and did not have a binding or non-binding resolution that sought or required a visit to the site and granting of permission by Azerbaijan. Hence, it is absolutely unacceptable that facts gets twisted like this. Also, just as Armenia has accusations, so does Azerbaijan against Armenia, and that should be part of the compromise language. Likewise, the HETQ article should be too, as it makes comparisons to Naxcvian. --AdilBaguirov 17:48, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Seljuks-Ganja

The Seljuks were an Iranian dynasty. They even said so themselves, saying that they were the predecessors to the Sassanids. Undo your POV edit.Azerbaijani 14:12, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Seljuks were a Turkic dynasty that ruled large territory, that included territory of Iran. My edit does not say whether they were Iranian or not, it just says that they ruled Ganja, which is accurate. So my edit stays. Grandmaster 14:19, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Exactly, they were a dynasty. Iran is already mentioned, and they were a dynasty of Iran. They themselves said that they were a dynasty (heir to the Sassanids). Then we must also add the Achaemenids, the Seleucids, the Parthians, the Sassanids, and every other dynasty that came to power in Iran...Why do you want to clutter up the article with nonsense? You know that you should undo your edit and that you are wrong on this issue, why are you being so stubborn?Azerbaijani 14:24, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
No, Seljuks were a Turkic dynasty whose powerbase was in Anatolia and capital sometimes in Baghdad, not Iranian Plateau. They are properly identified as Turkic dynasty by everyone. Sassanid heir might have been invented by Nizam al-Mulk to strengthen the hold over Iranian people, and can be mentioned, but taking this information and delcaring that "hence, they were an Iranian dynasty" is a little too much. --AdilBaguirov 17:51, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
We are not talking about the Seljuks of Rum. You even said in your very on statement that the Seljuks were a dynasty. The Seljuks were an Iranian dynasty, and they themselves even said so, claiming that they were descendants of the Sassanids and that they were the heirs to the throne of Iran. This makes them a dynasty of Iran. Frankly, I as well as many people, am getting sick of your original research.Azerbaijani 20:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Read this: [7] about seljuk empire. Grandmaster 07:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
user Azerbaijani, speak for yourself, please, and also, kindly point out what do you consider as OR in calling Seljuks what they were, Turks? At the same time, please prove that your position of proclaiming ethnically Turkic dynasty that ruled lands greater than Iran, resided in a country called Iraq, as "Iranian", is not OR. --AdilBaguirov 08:19, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I never said the Seljuk's were not Turkic (they were not Turks), they were. And ruling a land greater than Iran means nothing...and besides, Iraq was an Iranian country, how Arabized it was at that time is hard to tell. But when the Seljuks themselves considered themselves heirs to a throne that already existed, then that makes them a dynasty.Azerbaijani 13:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Khachkar destruction

I withdrew my AfD and instead redirected the article to Julfa, Azerbaijan (city). I preserved the discussion (as it was mostly about the article's status) on a seperate archive under this article's discussion page. Let's just agree to leave it like this. I'm tired of dealing with this article and I'm sure you are too. All the best, Aivazovsky 14:42, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I think that it wouldn't be a good idea to have one article on the issue because it would create too many problems (as we have seen). I'd rather just leave the issue with the Julfa and Nakhichevan articles. -- Aivazovsky 10:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Now I think the best solution would be to delete this article on the condition that an article specifically on this topic will not be created again. Atabek and Adil disliked the redirect idea. What do you think? I say that you and I should try to come up with a compromise here and then present it on the article's talk page for approval. -- Aivazovsky 11:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I think we should reach a compromise that would be supported by active Azerbaijani and Armenian contributors, because it is not gonna work if it is just 2 of us agreeing to compromise. I think the khachkar article should be restored back as per AfD until final solution is found to stop the conflict from spreading. Grandmaster 15:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
You're right. In any case, I think I'm going to take a break from Wikipedia for awhile. I don't know about you, but I'm all wikied-out. I have more pressing issues to attend to outside of Wikipedia. All the best, Aivazovsky 00:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Good luck with all your endeavours. I'm sorry this did not work out, but it might next time. Grandmaster 06:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Please see Talk:Khachkar destruction#This_article. - Richard Cavell 04:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Khojaly

We should discuss it on the talk page first. You know how much trouble we've had with this article in the past, its best to get consensus before proceeding. I think the recent additions have weighed very heavily on the "quotation" part, with the risk, especially where Adil is concerned of these being selective. - Francis Tyers · 14:32, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Already did it, see my comments :) - Francis Tyers · 14:44, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AMA

Sorry about not being active in this case. I am back now and will try to activly help out once again:) God bless:) --James, La gloria è a dio 22:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paytakaran

As mediator on the dispute over the Paytakaran article, I've made some suggestions to resolve each issue, and have requested further information on one of the issues. Your participation and cooperation would be appreciated. The Transhumanist   19:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok. Grandmaster 10:00, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
  • He has a better idea of what is currently going on. Sorry I could not help:( --James, La gloria è a dio 01:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
No problem, you did everything you could and were very helpful. Thanks. Grandmaster 06:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
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