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[edit] Welcome

Hello, Gran2, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the Newcomers help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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[edit] Transfer dates

On 2006-07_in_English_football#Summer_transfer_window seem wrong as it's not July yet... ed g2s • talk 14:25, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

We should probably use the date the agreement was announced then. ed g2s • talk 18:18, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

July the 1st is the day the transfer will go through so that is what it should be. Gran2 20:09, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Jermaine Pennant

Hi there. Please don't add Jermaine Pennant to the Liverpool F.C. page, or update his own page to call him a Liverpool player, until the official LFC site confirms the transfer. We've already had to deal with this jumping-the-gun over Bellamy, Aurelio and Cisse over the last month or so, and it'd be nice to not have to keep reverting the page. Thanks :-) Seb Patrick 16:21, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I just thought with the flashing Pennant joins Liverpool on Sky Sports and BBC Sport News kind of implied it had happened. I really don't see why it matters that it hasn't been updated by the official site. That doesn't mean it hasn't happened, it just means there not as fast. Gran2 17:33, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, we all knew it was going to happen, it's just that in a place like Wikipedia it's best to wait for official confirmation before altering squad listings etc - after all, it's a reference site, not a news site. And deals have been known to fall through at the last minute before. It's just that you weren't the first person to make the edit before an official announcement had been made, so some pretty continuous reverting was having to be done. But, no harm done, it's all sorted and done with now, it was just a friendly note. Seb Patrick 18:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
I see, I'll wait for official confirmation in future. Thank you for actually telling me this as you have and explaining why you reverted my edits, which is more than some people would. I apologise if I sounded at all rude. Gran2 20:16, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
No worries :-) I always find it's best to assume people are editing stuff in good faith, as you clearly were. And nah, I didn't think you sounded rude; likewise, I didn't mean to sound brusque in my initial comment! Seb Patrick 19:33, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changing [[? F.C.]] to {{fc}} templates

Why are you going through and changing working links in the standard [[...]] format to {{fc}} templates? Surely when the page is made and served to a web browser, all the server does is expand the template back out to a [[...]] format before creating the HTML? I know it's easier to do when creating new links, but don't see the point of amending already working ones. - fchd 18:47, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

I suppose your right in that sense, but what I mean is they were {{fc}} and someone changed them to [[...]]. I changed them back because I didn't see the point in them being changed when the were {{fc}} when they were first put in. If that makes sense. That's why I changed them. But usually ones already there I leave them. Gran2 19:03, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal for managing song lists on Simpsons episodes

Hi, hope you don't mind me posting to your userpage but I'm trying to collect opinion on a proposal relating to The Simpsons and, despite posting to various talk pages, I've had no feedback at all (except from a co-planner). I don't mind if all the opinion is negative (then I'll just forget the idea) but I'd like it to get some visibiltiy. I'm not going to go implement it unless the consensus is positive.

I'm proposing changing the way we manage lists of songs in episodes. Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject The Simpsons/Proposal for managing song lists on Simpsons episodes which has a full explanation of the proposal. Please leave comments there.

I'd appreciate any thoughts you have on this, or any views on where else it should be discussed --Mortice 12:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied! Gran2 13:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

That sounds good. Just link to the site and add a note. -- Scorpion0422 19:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Will do. Gran2 19:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] piped links on list of characters from The Simpsons

I saw you made the links Homer Jay Simpson and Lisa Marie Simpson piped links. The previous links did direct to the correct pages, and Wikipedia accessability guidelines suggets avoiding piped links when possible (screen readers will read both phrases, so it would say "Homer Simpson Homer Jay Simpson" instead of "Homer Jay Simpson". Since the original links go to the right articles, I'm going to change it back, but I figured I'd let you know why. Natalie 03:20, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah sorry. I just saw that they weren't 100% accurate, although still right, so I changed them. Gran2 07:16, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
That's cool. Apparently someone else just changed them, so I'm going to let it go. Natalie 17:51, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Okay, that's fine Gran2 18:10, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edits to ListGenBot tags

Hi, well done for picking season 6 to edit.

Wikipedia:WikiProject The Simpsons/Example generated lists/S06 contains all the lists for Season 6 - you'll see a few of the writers and directors etc have a pipe on the end of their names, that's something to watch out for when editing - the pipes in the infobox need to bemoved to outside the SourceEnd tag --Mortice 23:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas, and May the Edit be with you, always. T-borg (drop me a line) 19:54, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Slang words

Please do not post slang words such as "sucked" into articles.Thankyou.Nadirali 14:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

What? I have never, and don't ever plan to. It was just on the TALK page of Lisa Simpson, not the article. And I was using it to make a point, plus I couldn't be bothered to use "was really bad". If it was in an article I would, but it wasn't. Gran2 15:03, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Simpsons - Homer's Enemy

Hey thanks for cleaning up the link to the quotes. I added the quotes to wikiquote, but didn't really know the proper way to link to them (I'm still learning wikicode). Anyway cheers for cleaning up the article as well, It's one of my favourite episodes.

-Andy —The preceding unsigned comment was added by KillerCommz (talk • contribs) 07:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC).

Don't mention it, I'm happy to help! And thanks for saying olf your appreciation, I appreciate it! I need to learn more advanced adjectives... Gran2 08:07, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks.

Hey Gran2 - Thanks for your support on the List of Formula One fatal accidents, much appreciated :-D. --Skully Collins Edits 13:25, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey don't mention it! Formula One is something truly close to my heart, and deaths in it is the worst part of it. The list was a modal example of any page as well. Hopefully we will never ever need to add another name to it. Gran2 15:28, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Matt Groening article

Thanks for converting all the links to footnotes! --Rubber cat 00:50, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey no problem! Gran2 07:02, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shinji's Azumarril

He gave it away in DP017. -Sukecchi 13:45, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

You mean he GIVES it away, as far as I'm concerned the episode hasn't aired yet. If you have an official source stating it, and not just your word, witch really means nothing then you can add it, I believe you, but you need a internet source. Gran2 13:56, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2006-07

hi, sorry about the premier league season thing. just thought it was quite an important weekend, but yeh i get what you mean. i'm standing by now until man utd win and chelsea lose so i can add something!! cheers, please reply SamuelGosney

Hey no worries at all. You actually did a good job at adding it, and referenced it as well. It was just sort off... you know. It was a strange weekend, but I just feel it didn't merit mention. I think at the end of the season, if this proves to be a key weekend, then I say add it into the premier league section, which will be added upon the season's end. You'll see when it comes. And as a Chelsea fan, I hope that you won't have to add about Man United beating them! But you seem to be a valuable addition to wikipedia, so stick aroud! If you have any question feel free to ask! Happy editing! Gran2 19:49, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Simpsons Movie Soundtrack

But I Wanna Upcoming Album Is Called The Simpsons Movie (The Soundtrack) You Know. Please. -Ludavion 4 02:56 1 February 2007 (UTC).

English please! Gran2 20:39, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Ignore him. He is a sock of a persistant vandal. --AAA! (AAAA) 06:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I know, don't worry.. Gran2 07:02, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Cheers for the knowledge

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I'd forgotten about that. I uploaded a new version of it, and it went on as a separate file. So yeah this should be deleted. Gran2 15:03, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2006/07 in English Football

Regarding the United-Spurs match, actually my edit was hightlighting both facts but I'm ok with the latest edit putting the emphasis on VDS's injury. This is my account. I don't use it that much. Half of my edits have come when I'm too lazy to log in. This is how you message users correct? Edit their discussion page? I monitor random football and American football articles- Tocino 5/2/07

[edit] WikiProject The Football League: Season-By-Season

I've started a WikiProject for each individual season for the Football League. If you're interested, you can sign up here. Kingjeff 19:32, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for joining. You might want ot check sample article. Kingjeff 21:42, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Can you get started on an article. I put the template plate below so you can choose a season to start with. Kingjeff 19:25, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


|- | bgcolor="lightsteelblue" align="center" colspan="12" | The Football League Seasons |-

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1990-91 | 1991-92 | 1992-93 | 1993-94 | 1994-95 | 1995-96 | 1996-97 | 1997-98 | 1998-99 | 1999-2000
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I've started the 2004-05 article, I didn't know the scorers so I didn't include. Just a small note, I don't know that much about The Football League and I won't be able to donate that much time to it, but I will take part in all discussions and look after and create the odd page. Gran2 20:14, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Homer's Phobia

Hi,

I want to comment on Homer's Phobia. Don't worry, I will look into the spin-off episode eventually, but I right now I think this episode is more important. I think you should decide whether the image in the production is all that important. If you have read my FAC for Cape Feare, then you know that people have strict policies about "decorative" images. The synopsis should probably be cited. I've asked around and people seem to think that is the way to go these days. I'm going to cite the synopsis of Cape Feare myself. Is it possible to make a cultural references section? Even if it is a small one it could be useful. There is a few mentioned on the BBC website and in the official guide book. Perhaps there is even a few mentioned on the commentary track. Finally, I would try and expand the lead as much as possible. --Maitch 14:01, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I've done the cult refs, I've just included all of the music that is used in the episode, I think that is all that should be included as its the only clear things. I've referenced the synopsis with the official site, would doing what Scorpion does by using all (BBC, Complete Guide, Official Site) be better? And as it was just uploaded to make the page look nicer, the second image has been removed. Gran2 16:31, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I am not sure myself how to reference a synopsis properly. I missed your reference, because I thought it was only for the music. Anyway, it is probably fine by now and if somebody complains, you can always insert more references. --Maitch 16:43, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually the reference that was already there was just for the music, but I've moved that down into the cult refs section. Also, as I need this to be double checked, am I write in saying that it won more awards than any other episode? (I think one of the Treehouse of Horrors won more) Because that would be a good addition to the lead. Gran2 16:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I think your article is shaping up to be great now (better than Cape Feare at least), but I think you should do something about the stubby paragraphs. There are three one-sentence paragraphs, which is a problem (see also Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles#Paragraphs). I would recommend paragraphs with at least three sentences in it, so you can either expand or merge. I've seen it pop up in other FACs, so it might come up if you don't fix now. --Maitch 17:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Borat

Why did you remove the trivia section of Borat the movie?Rnazar 16:45, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Because it is currently a featured article candidate and trivia sections do not belong in FA quality articles. Yours was of good quality, but it just doesn't belong in an FA standard article. See WP:TRIVIA for more info. Gran2 17:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Back from wikibreak

Thanks for the vote of confidence and the kind words on my talk page. I'm back from my wikibreak (I was at the South by Southwest music festival in Austin, TX for the week), and I'll keep my eyes open for more GAC candidates that interest me. Feel free to notify me of their candidacy whenever you wish. Thanks again! –King Bee (τ • γ) 20:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Gran2 20:08, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Featured topic

I was thinking Season 6 or 8 would be best. 6 because there are already 4 GAs and 8 because there will soon be an FA. Although if need be, we can try and beef up a 6 FA... Perhaps Lisa's Wedding or Homer's Enemy. Either way, 8 sounds good. We should try and bring Maitch in to help. For the time being, we should each pick 5 episodes and try to get them to GA status over the next couple weeks. I'll take THOH VII, You Only Move Twice, The Homer They Fall, El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer (The Mysterious Voyage of Homer) and Simpsoncalifragilisticexpiala(Annoyed Grunt)cious. -- Scorpion 13:59, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Nah, you can finish it because you've been working on it and have a better idea of where your going with it. FYI, the guy who wrote Planet Simpson loves that episode and raves about Cash as the Coyote, calling him the best guest voice ever. He was also on the list of greatest guest stars by IGN. My fifth ep will be Hurricane Neddy. -- Scorpion 14:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Very good then. I'm currently at school, but when I get home, I'll look up exactly what Chris Turner says about Cash and add it to the article. Also, I'm not sure what the title given is on the DVD, but we should go by whatever that is. Or, the title in the Copyright Database. -- Scorpion 14:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
It's from Planet Simpson. -- Scorpion 17:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Homer's Phobia

You did an excellent job with it. It was no problem. If Wikiproject The Simpsons ever needs a vote for a FAC or some assistance in some way, feel free to ask, too. :) ~ZytheTalk to me! 17:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Seconded. God knows we need good quality tv articles. Check out this version of Justin from DH before I edited it, it just makes you want to cry... Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:45, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

I got one of these the other day, and I figured that if I deserve one, you deserve one.

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For helping clean up many different Simpsons articles and helping many reach Good article status. -- Scorpion 18:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Wahoo! Thanks! Gran2 19:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season 8

In order to keep track of our progress, I have made a page here. Feel free to make edits to it as you wish. We should see if we can get somebody else who owns the Season 8 DVDs to help. CanadianCaesar has been helping, but he doesn't have them. Still, just cleaning up the pages is a big help. -- Scorpion 18:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DT

Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Images - "When using multiple images in the same article, they can be staggered right-and-left", I do not see any benefit to this, predominantly images are right aligned ("Generally, right-alignment is preferred to left- or centre-alignment" -MoS) and so skim reading articles it catches me of guard when I see a left aligned image ("silly"), and frankly I believe the image looks better on the right. If consensus on the talk page agrees left aligning is best then I will concede. Matthew 17:22, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, just checking, thanks. Gran2 18:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP: Children's TV in the uk and northen ireland

Hey bitch, whats cooking. *joke* Wecome to out wikiproject. You'll need this at the top of your user page, or you might die.

This user is a member of WikiProject Children's Television Programmes of the U.K., a WikiProject which aims to improve British children's televsion programs. Please feel free to join us.



Regards, Zesty Prospect 09:27, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Provisional i am afraid. We will get a page up soon though, and then the fun will begin...

Can you feel the tension in the air, its you pulling at my pubic hair...

Thats a line from my poem, stressful body. Would you like some more, maybe even a whole song? regards, Zesty Prospect 09:35, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the barnstar!

Thanks a lot! Your gratitude is much appreciated.

I haven't been doing a lot on the wiki in the past couple of weeks; let me tell ya, coming off a wikibreak is a hard task. Once I can get back into it, I'll be reviewin' up a storm again. Thanks for your patience, and thanks again for your kind words. =) –King Bee (τ • γ) 16:09, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inter-lingual status

Hey, Gran2, since you are good at other languages maybe you could edit articles in multiple languges (you did take German, right?). It's only a suggestion. Isotope75 13:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Well it's a nice suggestion, but I have nowhere near the required foreign language level to edit any other Wikipedia. Gran2 14:08, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] It's real

Congratualtons you are now an official member of the WikiProject Childrens Television Programmes of the U.Kteam. Welcome. Please let me know why you call yourself Gran 2. My friend User: soopahoops77 reackons its because you fancy old people. (!!!???)
Regards, Zesty Prospect 16:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

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