Talk:Gravesend Grammar School

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Contents 1 New Additions 2 Suggested Sections 2.1 School Prayer 2.2 Prefect System 2.3 Head Boy & Deputies 2.4 School Badge 3 Opening paragraph 4 Old Gravesendians

[edit] New Additions

An Old Boy here (graduated in '99). Thought the article could do with expanding, so have added some stuff. If any of this is out of date, please update!

I've changed the 'Building' section to 'The School' so it can serve as a general overview of the school and it's history, rather than just focussing on the school building and facilities. I'll be adding some stuff in here about the school accepting pupils at aged 11/12 in 1992 when the 11+ was reinstated, but need to find out about how long before that the school had not been accepting boys at this age (if that makes sense!). Kantiandream 10:11, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and I just deleted the 'See Also' section, as it refers only to the wiki page on Gravesend; this is redundant when you consider that the reader is already linked to that page in the first paragraph of the article! Kantiandream 10:14, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

jsut wondering if you remembered the song word for word, or if you wrote it down somewhere. It's actually a bit out of date now, 'since has been raised to "1000 fellows" to accomodate the increased student body, but shall change it as appropriate Ariasne 17:01, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I got the text for the school song from a post on a message board at the Friends Reunited website. As far as I recall, it's accurate, though obviously you should feel free to correct if I'm wrong! So you're up to 1000 fellows now? I figured 800 would be out of date by now! Kantiandream 08:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

yeah, has been 1000 for a year or two now, and it fits into the tune even more poorly than eight hundred did :P Ariasne 13:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggested Sections

Some stuff that the article could do with including. Kantiandream 10:11, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] School Prayer

There was a school prayer that the deputy head (who I see is still Mr Simpson!) would read out at the start and end of the school year; is this prayer still in use? If so, perhaps someone could get hold of the text to put here. Kantiandream 10:11, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

as far as i'm aware, the prayer isn't read out any longer. Rumour has it that the current head attempted to remove the school song, however this has not lasted and it is back with full force... Ariasne 16:40, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Remove the school song? Sacrilege! I'm not sad to see the school prayer gone though. Kantiandream 08:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prefect System

Is this still in place? Kantiandream 10:11, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

yes, the system is in place, shall add a description of it Ariasne 16:40, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Good stuff; is it still managed by Mr Dunne, or has he left now? Kantiandream 08:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

No, he's still here and organising everything like that. Its hard to imagine him ever not Ariasne 13:49, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Head Boy & Deputies

How does this work now? Kantiandream 10:11, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

As far as i'm aware it hasn't changed from '99, but i only started in '00, so no idea. The candidates submit manifestos to the appropriate teacher and hustings are held a week or two before easter. The lower sixth and the staff cast their votes for the head boy and five deputies, and then the headmaster interiews the top candidates. Ariasne 16:40, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Interesting. In my day (God I hate that phrase!) the students got to vote, but the senior teachers decided who won, and the student vote only operated as a guide to what we thought, not necessarily influencing the final choice at all. Kantiandream 08:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] School Badge

Could someone get a digital copy of the school badge and place it at the start of the article (top right)? There's one on the school website, but I imagine just lifting it would be against wiki procedures. Kantiandream 10:11, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I would, but am not sure where to get one from, as i don't think i still have anything (other than black and white letter headings and my tie, which is miniscule) which has the badge on. Ariasne 16:40, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Shall make all these changes as appropriate.Ariasne 16:40, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I've moved the image to the right of the screen for presentation. Kantiandream 08:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

thanks. i added this at school and didn't have time to work out how to move it across the page Ariasne 13:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Opening paragraph

Can it be said that "under the leadership of ..." "results have declined dramatically"? Not many leaders would want this said about them! If I were the head I would take extreme exception! And how much is "dramatically"? - 5%? 10%? Is it just the statistical results, which are becoming more and more a cause of scepticism? It strikes me as a good example of POV.

One wonders how many US school articles would be written this way. My experience of reading them is that all is sweetness and light - never would an adverse criticism creep in, I am quite sure! Peter Shearan 08:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Old Gravesendians

Does the very short article Old gravesendians refer to old boys from this school? If so, it could be linked and enhanced. Welsh 21:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Old Gravesendians is the name of a local rugby club, originally consisting of old boys, though this is no longer the case. The page you linked seems to have been deleted now, but the process is a relatively common, in South-East England at least. Ariasne 18:43, 4 January 2007 (UTC)