Talk:Gordie Howe

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I've heard (& it's a record unlikely to be equalled) Howe played on a record 21 All-Star teams. Trekphiler 08:04, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

And almost certainly won't be. Most of Howe's career took place in a league with a hundred players in it; that Ray Bourque was named to nineteen season end All-Star Teams in the expansion era is remarkable -- Gretkzy himself fell well short. RGTraynor 17:42, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gordie Howe hat-trick

Is there a source for the trivia item that he's never actually recorded a Gordie Howe hat-trick? I personally find it hard to believe that in 2186 games, 975 goals, and 1385 assists, he's never had at least one game where he scored a goal and an assist, and also a fighting penalty. --Legalizeit 03:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alleged copyvio

I just went over that mrandmrshockey.com page, and I can't see a single damn section in this article that's taken from there. Quite aside from that I'm one of the many editors who've worked on it, and wrote my copy myself, thank you! That this comes from an anon IP registered today and with eight actual edits is highly suspect, and given the large copyvio backlog, I want to see some line-by-line proof of copyvios -- and any such section changed rather than the whole article held hostage -- before such an important article gets put on the shelf for a few weeks. RGTraynor 07:39, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name Gordie Howe is copyrighted, see Gordie Howe's Official website

Gordie Howe is the only player to get his name copyrighted, please see his official website www.mrandmrshockey.com --69.156.150.37 07:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)


Here is the exact page on his website The name itself Gordie Howe is copyrighted. He is the only player to get his name copyrighted see his official website http://www.mrandmrshockey.com/history/ --69.156.150.37 07:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I think the law states that things in the public domain, such as sports figures, can't really copywrite such stuff -- you couldn't, for instance, prevent a newspaper from writing a story about someone in the public domain. Someone with actual knowledge of the law will have to correct me if I'm wrong, but that's my understanding. ~~ Meeples 07:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Indeed, I was under that assumption myself. Perhaps someone should take this to WP:AN. KOS | talk 07:54, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

In Gordie Howe's case he can, He's the only player ever to do that. --69.156.150.37 07:52, 15 August 2006 (UTC)


You'll need some proof to back that up. I think he can copywrite his name so that others cannot use it without his permission in some instances. But, by your argument, you're breaking the law by even writing his name on this talk page, now aren't you? ~~ Meeples 07:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

You are correct, I will call him GH for now on!--69.156.150.37 08:02, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Good plan. Until we get a copywrite lawyer in here, let's not worry about this article being a violation. ~~ Meeples 08:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Besides the {{copyvio}} template is for text that appears to infringe on the copyright of said website, the text in the article itself is not a copyright infringement, but is released under the GFDL. So even if his name is copyrighted that template is not correct. KOS | talk 08:10, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
This might clear this up, the anon appears to be mistaken. From: http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html Can I copyright the name of my band? No. Names are not protected by copyright law. Some names may be protected under trademark law. Contact the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office, 800-786-9199, for further information. KOS | talk 08:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC
Quite aside from that it's the moniker "Mr. Hockey" that was trademarked (not "copyrighted," a term used by the editor in complete ignorance of the law), not Howe's name itself. That being said, Howe was called "Mr. Hockey" decades before, its use in this article is valid, and what the hell ... "Detroit Red Wings" is no less trademarked, and it's used in half a thousand articles. RGTraynor 01:29, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
The user that tagged this article is a sockpuppet of an indefinitely banned user, VaughanWatch AKA JohnnyCanuck. There is no need to worry about the copyright tagging. -- JamesTeterenko 03:18, 16 August 2006 (UTC)