Talk:Golem in popular culture

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following section copied from Talk:Golem --Shuki 23:24, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Popular Culture Policy

In an attempt to keep the popular culture section at a manageable level I'm going to chop anything that doesn't meet the following criteria. If anyone thinks I'm being heavy-handed, please discuss it here to work something out.

Books, comics

  1. The entry should explain how the golem is used in the work. Is it the Golem of Prague, a golem with 'Emet' on the forehead or just a robot called golem?
  2. Don't mention any details that aren't related to the Jewish golem in some way.

Computer games

  1. I've pared the list down to 3 representative examples: Nethack (the original text based dungeon crawl), Final Fantasy (arguably the acme of the party-style mission based genre) and Magic: The Gathering (the best known CCG). Don't add other games unless they are notably different or the golem plays an important role in the game.

Regards, Ashmoo 00:08, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

New fans will come by this page and add their favorite info again and again and again. A compromise that would limit the harm done would perhaps be to include a section entitled e.g. Use in popular culture without explicit relevance (or reference?) to the jewish Golem. What do you think?--Niels Ø 11:38, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

I think that the Dragon Quest golem plays a more prominent role in the games than the Final Fantasy golem, so I'm going to make that switch.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pepper2000 (talkcontribs) .

I would like to point out (even though I'm not a registered member of wikipedia) that golems and other simulacra are the predominant theme of White Wolf's game Promethean: The Created. I thought this warranted a footnote in this article, as it is the only example (that I know of, at least) of a pop-culture roleplaying game where the protagonists take on the roles of golems and Frankenstein-esque monsters. Regards, Neil K., unregistered user. 64.6.42.20 01:23, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

It is interesting to note the Golems of Promethean actually do use the Loew story as one of their origin tales. 71.76.218.40 03:27, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A few remarks on Popular Culture

Re HEAVY-HANDED. I do think that Ashmoo's approach is a tiny bit heavy-handed, and so, following his advice, I shall discuss it here to work something out. Given the fact that there are so many Golems around and no two Golems are exactly alike, it is only logical that so many of them are mentioned here as well as in so many separate articles and that so many of them have a page of their own. After all, Wikipedia has to reflect reality, and so it does.--BZ(Bruno Zollinger) 08:33, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Re TITLE. People who consult an encyclopedia will be grateful to find separate entries for a subject in popular and not so popular culture. So when the article was started, the current title was of course the right choice. Meanwhile, however, another aspect has gained more importance: The number of subjects in Wikipedia that go by the name of Golem has reached such heights, that sooner or later this fact will have to be reflected in a more appropriate header.--BZ(Bruno Zollinger) 09:56, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Re-Arrangement

I've split the list between Books/Comics and Movies/TV for ease of use. Malak1000 16:05, 2 November 2006 (UTC)