Talk:God Emperor of Dune

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Contents 1 Arafel 2 Flippers 3 Nayla 4 Movie 5 Nayla's orgasm! 6 Epigraph reference

[edit] Arafel

In the synopsis I found this sentence: "In her [Sionia] dreams she sees the various possibilities in the human future, and more importantly how in many futures humans are hunted and killed to the last person by deadly machines." I have read all the Dune Novels 4 times (including God Emperor of course), and nowhere I found a direct mention that the threat was the machines. It sure is a fair possibility, but as it was never explicitly mentioned in the original work, I think its presence in the synopsis is a pure interpretation that should be corrected. Or maybe I missed the mention 4 times? Not impossible ;-) --Fafner 21:02, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)

p348 in GEoD, Ace paperback edition, where Siona receives the vision of Arafel: "No ancestral presences would remain in her consciousness, but she would carry with her forever afterward the clear sights and sounds and smells. The seeking machines would be there, the smell of blood and entrails, the cowering humans in their burrows aware only that they could not escape... while all the time the mechanical movement approached, nearer and nearer and nearer... louder... louder! Everywhere she searched, it would be the same. No escape anywhere." Elsewhere in the book Leto thinks of the Ixians attempts to develop self-guided hunter-seekers which could adapt. It seems extremely clear that if it weren't for the tools of Siona-invisibility, no-ness, and the Scattering, Arafel would have come to pass in the form of quasi-Berserkers (Berserkers in the Fred Saberhagen sense) hunting down and killing all of humanity. It is not 'pure interpretation'. -- Maru Dubshinki 03:53 PM Saturday, 12 March 2005

Ok, I found it, even though in my book it is on page 495 :-D The idea is located in a small part, too small for my failing memory :-P Fafner 08:37, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

That is true, but it is a major part: it is the reason for the Golden Path, the reason is later mentioned several times, and prior to that we were promised an explanation when we are told that all the rebels like Siona previously converted when Leto showed them the Path's raison d'etre, so you should have been looking for it. -- Maru Dubshinki

[edit] Flippers

The article synopsis is erroneous. While Leto's feet are useless his hands are still functional. According to the book: "with my Atreides face positioned man-height at one end, the arms and hands (still quite recognizable as human) just below. My legs and feet? Well, they are mostly atrophied. Just flippers, really, and they have wandered back along my body."

[edit] Nayla

Any reference to her surname in the book? Otherwise should be removed, I think it comes from the Dune pedia?

Grepping through an ebook I have of GEoD, I can find no surname ever mentioned. --maru (talk) contribs 18:58, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I also did a search in my text file of GEoD, and no last name comes up at anypoint, so I've taken it out of the article. Good catch! TAnthony 18:37, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Incidentally, it does indeed come from the Dune Encyclopedia. --Gwern (contribs) 18:55, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Movie

When will be the movie available?

I don't know how well this book would translate into a film or miniseries; and I think the producers of the Sci-Fi channel miniseries (Dune and Children of Dune) have said in interviews that they may be more interested in adapting the prequels. If I find a source on that I'll leave it here ... TAnthony 20:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nayla's orgasm!

Believe it or not, this fact is actually in the book! It's the last line of the chapter. But it really has no place in this article, completely unexplained as it is. If I recall, it has something to do with her religious fervor over Leto, in the context that the assassination plot is coming to fruition and she has convinced herself that it is a test by Leto of her loyalty. But even the way I've just worded it doesn't make it notable enough to be part of the synopsis. If anyone else can find a productive way to use it ... TAnthony 15:50, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

She had an orgasm because she believes so strongly in her Lord Leto that she sees Duncan's open defiance as extremely dangerous and erotic. Dionyseus 16:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Epigraph reference

Moved to Heretics of Dune page. Scott1329m 19:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)