Talk:Goblins (webcomic)

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This article was deleted through the prod process on 26 May 2006. That deletion has been contested, and the article has been restored. Further attempts at deleting this article should be made through WP:AFD or WP:CSD if the article meets any speedy deletion criteria except the recreation of deleted material criterion.

[edit] Cast

Maybe we should only feature characters who say... talked in five comics. Becouse Listing the paladin at the beginning is just ridicules. Also, I think we should start phasing the jokes out of the cast. Gyzmr 00:24, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

If it's okay, I'm going to take the initiative and seperate the characters into sub-categories depending on if they live or not. --DJ Chair 16:48, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

As of 11/10, the "Characters" section is horribly point-of-viewed and non-encyclopaedic-quality written...

[edit] Frames

I was thinking that someone should set up some frames to have the Character information in it. Also, we need a "Spoiler Warning". --D'Argent 22:59, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notability

Do we have any evidence that this satisfies the critia in the guideline for inclusion of web material? Since it's been de-prodded, nomination for deletion may be avoided if the article has third party sources. - brenneman ^{L} 07:57, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, there is [1]. I don't know if that counts, but I believe it should. Also, the comic is hosted on keenspot. algumacoisaqq 22:38, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

It's also number seven here, and we seem to have articles on most of the other things in those top tens... for what that's worth (since articles remain until someone challenges them, the existence of an article can't be used to argue that we should have other, similar articles unless the article in question has been challenged and gotten a strong consensus to keep in the past... and even then it's dicy, since situations can differ in subtle ways.) On the other hand, those lists are based on votes and are therefore fairly subject to ballot-stuffing, especially if a webcomic does something like putting up a preview of the next comic that you have to vote to see (which, incidently, appears to be how Goblin holds down those two spots.) On the other other hand, absent extreme ballot stuffing that does seem to establish that the comic has a regular readership of at least four thousand or so, and probably more if not everyone votes. I don't know if that alone qualifies, though... The main point of WP:WEB is that Wikipedia's place on the web could easily make us biased towards other web publications if we're not careful. For instance, a print newspaper with a daily readership in the mid-thousands would probably not get its own article, not unless there was something else noteworthy about it. And I'm not convinced that Keenspot is the sort of thing that criteria three is looking for... it notes that that criteria is usually expected to overlap with criteria one (which implies something far more high-profile than simply getting into Keenspot), and notes something being districted by, say, the The Guardian as another example. Basically, I can't see anyone looking at a webcomic, saying "Oh, it's hosted by Keenspot!", and automatically concluding anything meaningful to the intent of WP:WEB. --Aquillion 06:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I know being hosted on keenspot isn't a great thing, but at least it's something. I only said that thought because I heard somewere that they don't just accept anything, the comic has to be good. About the rankings, I don't think it's baloted, because every comic get's to post an preview. And goblins has "forgoten" to update the preview several times now. But that rank is loosely based on popularity, not quality (i.e. you don't vote for the best one you think, you vote for all the ones you think that deserves to be voted). Also, the site has about 25,000 to 30,000 readers, but I can't confirm you the numbers, or even if they are right.

Anyway, I can't give you proof like something said about goblins in a local newspaper (there might even be something like that, but I don't have a clue on were to look). The reason that I defend this article is that, when I started to read goblins, I came to Wikipedia searching for some general information about it. I didn't found any, not because there wasn't but because the article was deleted for non-notability. Anyway, I see no point for deleting it, but I admit I have a problem with the deletion policy (well, I think people are overdoing it, see the goblins exemple). algumacoisaqq 22:03, 14 October 2006 (UTC)