Talk:Girlfriend (Avril Lavigne song)
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[edit] Already Premiered In New Zealand
I see the world premiere has been announced for TRL but in New Zealand last night it premiered on Music Station C4 days earlier. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.88.21.198 (talk) 04:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC).
Even if it's leaked anywhere or premiered elsewhere, videos are often promoted as a "world premiere."
[edit] POV
This article seems severely biased in its positivity towards the song. Mostly, it’s the wording that’s at issue here: “the ever-classic love triangle theme”, “…on YouTube and became a hit” (relatively, plus no citation), “which is the main feel of the song and video: how immature a girl, or girls, can get when fighting for a man that may not be worth it” (this is one possible reading of the song, many people might think that the song’s protagonist [hero] is the girl that stealing the others boyfriend) "many people-fans and haters alike” (I think this should be prefaced with an explanation or linked, you can’t just use slang like that) Well I’m not going to change it now, but what do you guys think, should it stay the same? Or could it use a change? (70.48.96.7)
[edit] Sorry
I'm sorry! It looks like the source was wrong. I think Billboard screwed up. Being at it's airplay shot up and donloads shot up should of put it at a top 50 debut! Tcatron565 00:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Question - please answer....
I've heard "Girlfriend" on the radio in Southwest Victoria, Australia (on Mixx FM) and on Video Hits on Channel 10 Australia, where Lavigne sings:
"I'll be the mother (Blank)-ing princess"
...which is clearly an expletive. Should I say in the article, "The single also obtained a Parental Advisory sticker"? PLEASE HELP! Jetstar888 05:26, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- You're correct that the single does contain explicit language, but I haven't actually seen a physical copy of the single yet, so I'm not sure whether it definitely does bear a parental advisory label. However, to digress, even if the single does bear a sticker, these days many recordings contain language that may be offensive to some people, so I'm not sure that it's really notable for a Wikipedia article. Besides, the word "fuck" is no longer considered offensive per se, at least by the legal system in NSW, so if Wikipedia editors make a big deal out of such language, we are imposing our own values on what is intended to be an objective article. As far as I can tell, Girlfriend is also the first time Lavigne has used the word "delicious" in a song, but mentioning that in the article would just look ridiculous, so why should "fuck" be treated any different? — Phil500 (Talk / Contribs) 07:25, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well I apologise!!! Next time, I'll keep my big mouth shut! Jetstar888 05:26, 6 March 2007 (UTC) :_(
- Sorry, I suppose that was a little harsh. I didn't mean to offend you, and by all means don't let this deter you from adding something that you feel might be relevant. My comment was not just directed at you, but also at a number of other editors who have been adding information to this article that is not really objective - I seem to recall a couple of times that this article has been altered to mention the offensive language in a fairly judgemental way, and I was just trying to prevent that from happening again.--Phil500 (Talk / Contribs) 07:43, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Your apology is accepted. :-D I suppose that would have been a ridiculous thing to put in the article, anyway!! Jetstar888 04:13, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, I suppose that was a little harsh. I didn't mean to offend you, and by all means don't let this deter you from adding something that you feel might be relevant. My comment was not just directed at you, but also at a number of other editors who have been adding information to this article that is not really objective - I seem to recall a couple of times that this article has been altered to mention the offensive language in a fairly judgemental way, and I was just trying to prevent that from happening again.--Phil500 (Talk / Contribs) 07:43, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well I apologise!!! Next time, I'll keep my big mouth shut! Jetstar888 05:26, 6 March 2007 (UTC) :_(
[edit] Model in the video
Anyone got info who the guy there is? Berserkerz Crit 18:19, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] itunes
Who took out the itunes on the charts I know that they are not Conventional but digital downloads are important because it a new way of measuring the songs success Avril Lavigne’s girlfriend debuted number 1 in Canada and number 2 in the US
- It doesn't really matter that the song was particularly successful on the itunes chart, the point is that Wikipedia policy clearly states that itunes chart data should not be used - see WP:CHARTS. If you think that this policy should be changed, why not raise the issue at Wikipedia talk:Record charts?--Phil500 (Talk / Contribs) 07:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for clearing that up, my fault i see what your saying because itunes is an independent company and the page would be overfull with companys such as amazon and wal-mart ect. Does Billbord have a digital download countdown ? If not there should be one.
- There are two, Hot Digital Songs and Hot Digital Tracks. They also shouldn't be used in the table. The table is for showing a song's performance in various countries and genres. Using the Billboard Hot 100 gives one a much better understanding of a song's performance since it takes airplay, singles sales, and digital downloads into consideration. ShadowHalo 07:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, it might be OK to use either one of the download charts if the single fails to chart on the proper Hot 100, but does appear on one of the component charts - WP:CHARTS indicates this. Of course, once the song does reach the Hot 100 (as it almost certainly will), the component positions become redundant.--Phil500 (Talk / Contribs) 07:33, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Versions
how many versions of Girlfriend she do?
She has released 7 so far in Mandarin, Japanese, Portuguese, Spanish, French, German, Italian and English. I read somewhere she tried Hindu but it didnt work out
