Talk:Girl group

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In fact, the all-girl band with the power manager-producer goes back further (yes, I'm a personal friend of the author, but this is an unsolicited endorsement!): Sherrie Tucker, Swing Shift: "All-Girl" Bands of the 1940s (ISBN: 0822324857). --MichaelTinkler

Indeed, and no-one who's seen Some Like It Hot can forget "Sweet Sue and her Society Syncopaters".

I just don't think of groups like that in the heading of "Girl Bands". The musicians written about in "Swing Shift" were exactly that: musicians. I mean, all the members of Led Zeppelin were male, but it didn't make them a boy band :) I suppose you could argue that people like The Andrews Sisters were the spiritual heirs of the Spice Girls, though.

Not all members of girl bands are talentless bimbos - some of them *can* actually sing and dance rather well and would probably feel quite comfortable in , say, a Broadway production or make a career singing backing for other acts. However, the girl bands from the 1940's were from an era when professional songwriters, arrangers, band leaders, and record producers applied the same production-line approach to virtually all popular music. The distinction only really arose with the arrival of rock and roll and the tradition of the singer-songwriters, IMHO. However, if you do have information about the 40's girl groups, I can't see any reason not to add it here. --Robert Merkel
Oh, absolutely. And I wasn't trying to suggest you shouldn't; I was just explaining why I hadn't. -- GWO

Most of the 60s groups were highly talented. Most of the lead singers had pipes on them reminiscent of Bessie Smith, and they knew how to use them. On another note, I don't think the wall of sound typifies girl groups, so I'm going to try to modify that section. Trontonian


Does this title mean to include 'all women groups'? Then we would also be including The Slits, The Runaways, The Shaggs, Feminist Improvising Group, Fanny and others.... quercus robur 00:40 Feb 5, 2003 (UTC)


Why is this here instead of girl group, which is far more common, I think. It wins on google by about 20,000 hits. Tokerboy

Why is this article listed under soul music? There are lots of girl groups that are not soul music performers. RickK | Talk 06:11, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Because there are two different meanings to the term girl group. It can mean any all-female pop band, but is also used very specifically to refer to a kind of early 60s girl groups (e.g. The Angels, The Shangri-las). These girl groups were soul.
On a google search using quotes around "girl group", the top ten results include
  • Two totally unrelated
  • 5 appear to be specifically about early 60s groups
  • One more generally applying to any female pop band (usually rock, I think)
  • One is about both (this very Wikipedia article)
  • One is a list of cds, some of which are totally unrelated male singers, others fall in between the two uses

Tuf-Kat 06:39, Apr 2, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Terminology (Girl group vs. Girl band)

What is the difference between a girl group and a girl band?? (This question was brought to my mind when I saw Zanimum's recent edit to Crystal (disambiguation). 66.32.247.47 23:36, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

See Template talk:Popmusic#Girl group. Brianjd 07:30, 2004 Dec 13 (UTC)

[edit] Name of that band in Kill Bill: Volume I?

Yeah, I know'rit's a japanese band consistin' only of chicks in Kill Bill 1, but, hey...What's their EXACT name? I'm unsure, so I betted a wild-card at 5-6-7-8's. Anyone more..."renemberable", than me? With better memory, i.e.?--OleMurder 23:48, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Things to Do

the article is kind of a mess. Things that would help:

A discussion of the relationship between girl groups and the Philly Soul sound of the 70s.

A streamlining of the discussion of 80s and 90s girl groups, and an effort to put it in some kind of context. Just listing groups that happened to be girl groups is not a helpful way to organize the article.

I'll try to get to these some day, but it'll take a while. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by NoahB (talkcontribs) 15:46, 30 December 2006 (UTC).