Talk:Gifted education

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Duke TIP About Talent Search has a list of the states covered by Center for Talent Development, Center for Talented Youth, Rocky Mountain Talent Search, and Talent Identification Program. --Christopherlin 07:31, 2 May 2004 (UTC)

This article's introductory passage focuses primary about gifted education in the United States. We need someone who knows about how gifted education works interntaionally as well (this involves specifying AP as only in the US and Canada and some international schools, for example). However, I am so Americanized. Simfish 04:42, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Not only is this Americanised it seems to be quite POV. Some educationalists believe that there are advantages to keeping gifted children in mainstream education without exceptional treatment, others disagree with aspects of the "gifted" phenomenon (how to identify a gifted child, whether class-bias will occur, etc). See Grammar schools in the United Kingdom for a cursory introduction to some of the problems when Britain had two entirely seperate school systems for the gifted and non-gifted. --VivaEmilyDavies 13:09, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I've made a small start by moving some material that was US-specific to the section on that country and editing the first paragraph to make it more universal. I may add some material in other entries that I will link if I get the time. --Autarch 15:17, 27 Oct 2005 (UTC)

I've started a small page on Mara Sapon-Shevin and provided links to and from it. I've added a section on criticism of gifted education, but just put the link to the new page in it. I'll expand both the new page and the new section over the next few weeks. (I've to look up references to critics of Sapon-Shevin for one thing.) --Autarch 15:53, 27 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Looking at this page, it seems to be both just a page of links and quite POV. I'm not sure if all the links are relevant - the fictional example seems as out of place as a link to Biggles in a discussion of the history of World War II. One other thing - am I really the only contributor who has looked at this page recently? I'd have thought that such a controversial topic would have the opposite effect. --Autarch 19:51, 5 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the work on it lately, Autarch. I have this article on my watchlist because I'm interested in gifted education, as I was in a fairly substandard "Gifted and Talented" program myself as a child, and now have a couple of early-achiever children who may end up in our local program (if it's better than the one I was in) -- but I don't know much about the field as a whole. I think most previous contributors to this article have been in the same boat. Tackling these large overview articles is daunting for many, so they just add a link to the one school they know. I do appreciate seeing more work on it, and I'll be happy to keep an eye on your progression and help out where I can. — Catherine\^talk 01:08, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, Catherine, they are much appreciated. One thing that occurred to me is to have a separate page for the huge list of wikilinks to programmes - it's such a large list it's becoming unwieldy. That or maybe make it a subsection of its' own. I have to admit that I'm not as positive about gifted education as I used to be - maybe it's just some forms of it that put me off - however, I'll try and make my contributions as balanced as possible. User:Autarch 14:57, 29th November 2005 (UTC)

I think the reason that no one has edited this page is that it is so obviously a "bash the gifted" page that there is no point in trying to fix it. Far better to direct people to Hoagies where there are a lot of articles and resources with some content. 63.249.114.7 07:29, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Split by Autarch

I don't really see the reason to split off the list into a separate article. Besides, per naming conventions, "List of..." is often preferred. Programs vs. programmes I don't know. I've changed the wording to bring it more in line with WP:MOS. --Christopherlin 21:01, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

An earlier contributer made the point to me that it made the article clumsier to read - I suppose it's a matter of aesthetics. I'm fine with the changing of wording - I'm just used to a particular spelling - if the guidelines suggest it, I'm quite happy with it. Autarch 21:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't know. Categories were designed to reduce the need for manually-updated "list of" articles. I personally think the list should be in the main article, instead of split off. --Christopherlin 22:28, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

OK, the list is back in the original article - I put it near the end. Autarch 19:27, 2 September 2006 (UTC)