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[edit] History of fire brigades in the UK

Hi there, I noticed you've got a sandbox article on the above, and was wondering if you could help expand a section on history in the article Fire service in the United Kingdom. You could then Wikilink to your article when it's complete. Any thougths? Escaper7 13:08, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Good work - I didn't serve for 30 years - quite a bit less but I'm a veteran of several major disasters, both as a JO and subsequently in broadcasting including the 1993 WTC bomb, the Paddington rail crash and Buncefield. Before that the Marchioness and Clapham train crah whilst in the job (to name a few!). Why don't you touch base with User:daysleeper47 in the US, he's i/c the fire project on Wiki. Meantime - why don't you publish your existing history article, cross link it to history sec in Fire service in the UK - then other eds can help build your stub up into a full article. Good luck. Regards. Escaper7 12:46, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi I've put some comments re the above on the article's talk page. Let's move the discussion there now. It's full of some really interesting stuff. I hold the GIFE - you might want to contribute to Institution of Fire Engineers at some point given your extensive experience. Regards. Escaper7 07:37, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ministry of Defence Fire Services

Given your extensive experience, you might want to have a look at the above and its talk pages. You might be more familiar with this one - my comments on the talk pages are self explanatory. Regards Escaper7 13:50, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History of fire service legislation

Hi there. Excellent work on this, it's extremely informative and thorough - brings back many memories of trying to implement some of the legislation. I would like to add some changes, but they are all minor, ad mostly relate to Wiki style - but I'd rather do this when the article is online, and don't want to list everything here. Some bigger points:

  • The RR (fire safety order) is not an Act - it's a statutory instrument - or "order in council", or secondary legislation. Simply an SI is used to alter existing legislation
  • Although your article is about fire safety legislation - I think you should include a section on the Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004 (I've done a stub on this). Why? Someone with a limited knowledge might wonder why it's not included - ie because it's not focused purely on fire safety but Section 6 (and 28 I think) deal with "promoting fire safety" and "empowering inspectors". It is now, as you know, the primary legislation for FRS in England and Wales. *Problem: If you mention and lik to the FRSA - you need to include the Scottish and NI equivalents. Confusingly the Fire Scotland Act (2005) covers in Scotland what the FRSA and RRO cover in England in one act - your article is about "UK history"... so you'll have to work that in. :) NI is covered by: The Fire and Rescue Services (Northern Ireland) Order 2006 S.I. No. 1254 (N.I.9) Ditto. But the good news is that you can lift the info and refs from my article Fire service in the United Kingdom.
  • Then... you should Wikilink all acts of parliament, check they work (or don't)[1] and list all statutory instruments - although these don't tend to have stubs on Wikipedia. I've thought about starting one on the RRO 2005 as it was such a massive change to the law.
  • Finally you need a killer reference in your opening paragraph to give weight to your opening statement. Surprisng how often this gets missed. I recently added one to the British Transport Police article - just by citing the BTP's "about us" on the homepage of its web. A pretty obvious thing that often gets missed.
  • So.. I think you should publish your article then we can help tweak. It's great work and I know history articles are very fiddly. Let me know when it's live. Regards Escaper7 07:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Great article, very detailed. I've added one or two bits including the Scots/NI legislation. Regards. Escaper7 08:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your message

Hi thanks for your message. I'm taking a bit of time out from Wikipedia, so only logging in once or twice a week. On history of fire stations - I do know that Clerekenwell is the oldest operational stn in London. I'll check out the year for you. I'm going to move your article "historic fire brigades..." as per the discussion on the talk page as no one has raised any objections - probably in a week or so. I'll come back to you on the other points all the best Escaper7 12:34, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Cheese n' Onion

There's no dispute about it Taytos were first - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/11/05/db02.xml Jooler 08:47, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

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