Talk:George McFarland

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The below appears to have been written by a family member:

George Robert Phillips McFarland (Spanky) was born in Dallas, TX on Oct. 2, 1928 - not in Ft. Worth as many bios report. His middle names were family names, Robert after our father; Phillips, our mother's maiden name. George was our father's brother's name. Other bios report his middle name as Emmett - which is our father's middle name. Our brother, Tommy, was also named after our father - Thomas Emmett McFarland. Tommy passed away in 1982, and Spanky suddenly on June 30, 1993 followed by our mother just 30 days later. I am 12 years younger than Spank, 10 years younger than Tommy and 3-1/2 years older than our youngest sibling - Roderick Eugene McFarland. Rod and I are quite close and both try to keep the stories straight about Spank.

Thanks for this opportunity.

Amanda McFarland Hall AHall44787 at cs.com


Sorry about the birth-death dates mistake Maveric

Paul Melville Austin

Oh no! I'm not mad or anything Paul. I just edited the article in the wiki way -- albeit with some more knowlege on how articles look here. This in only due to the fact that I've been around since January and have since become a wikipediholic. Cheers! --mav 14:57 Jul 27, 2002 (PDT)

Hmmm. I see that Talk: pages don't follow redirects, although once they are redirects the only way to get at the talk page is by entering the URL directly. There's some worthwhile discussion on one of the invisible talk pages about honoring Mrs. Hall's exclusive contribution to Wikipedia by quoting it directly.Ortolan88 15:13 Jul 27, 2002 (PDT)

If I understand you correctly, you're referring to the fact that a redirect of an *article* does not affect the *talk page* with the same title, if any. That's correct; if you move a page, you should also remember to move the talk page separately if one exists.
It's been suggested that the article-move feature be expanded to all users and automatically carry along existing talk pages when moving articles; if you agree or disagree, please post your suggestions as a follow-up to feature request #585583. --Brion VIBBER 15:39 Jul 27, 2002 (PDT)
Hum, I would be very hesitant to allow somebody who has been a logged-in user for 5 minutes the ability to move a page. It is not at all possible to expect such a person to instantly be familiar with our naming conventions. Therefore this feature should be limited to long-time trusted users who are familiar with our policies and naming conventions.
With that said I suggest we re-implement something like "trusted user"status on a 30 day/30 edit (or whatever) basis so that 'old hands' could edit protected pages, move articles and their histories and do any other non-meta sysop functions. --mav

That's it. Going to the redirect page takes you to the target page, so you have no opportunity to inspect the talk page of the redirected page via the interface, but only via directly entered URL. I'll go to the feature request, but I put the note here in the hopes that someone would see it (tnx), and also that someone would follow up on the pleasant and appropriate suggestion of quoting the text from the family member as it stands. Ortolan88 15:50 Jul 27, 2002 (PDT)

Actually, you can get to it: when you've followed a redirect, there's a bit under the title that says "Redirected from Oldarticlename". Click on the old name, and you're taken to the old article; you can click the talk link from there.
It's possible that the useability of that link isn't obvious enough to people who don't already know it works. --Brion VIBBER
I didn't notice it, and I'm a pretty hip guy, so it is semi-invisible, but not invisible. The essence of the redirect is not that it was redirected, but that you have gotten to the right place! I made a suggested implementation on the bug site given above, that there should be a link to the old talk page, not a wholesale movement of text, on the grounds that talk page authors have no discipline and god knows what a talk page would look like after being softwarily merged three or four times. Ortolan88 16:43 Jul 27, 2002 (PDT)