Talk:George I of Halych

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This article was nominated for deletion on February 28, 2005. The result of the discussion was to KEEP.

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On 15 Feb 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. The result was keep. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Jurij I of Halicz for a record of the discussion.

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This monarch was in such a western position compared to other "Russian" rulers that Georg, Gyorgy, Georgius, Jiri, Jerzy were also names used of him in contemporary use. Because of this, the English one should be used in English Wikipedia. No one can seriously claim that this monarch became known only through Russian sources. Maed 12:43, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

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Knowing that there was the move "23:21, 18 April 2006 Valentinian m (moved Jurij I of Halicz to Yuriy I of Halych: Better spelling of the name.)", it is clear that Yuriy I of Halych has not been the original location of this article, contrarily to what Valentinian later falsely alleges in his edit comment on "20:48, 21 June 2006 Valentinian m (moved George I of Halych to Yuriy I of Halych: Returning page to its original name..." - if this is so heavy thing to V, perhaps this should be moved back to the original Jurij I of Halicz and then open a RM to where it possibly should be moved. However, I am happier with George I of Halych, and as long as this remains at that, I would not demand return to Jurij I of Halicz, which is the next alternative. Maed 13:28, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Jurij is not a transliteration known in English, as you are no doubt aware. On 21 June I returned the darn thing to the name you moved it from, since nobody - at least according to Google - has heard of "George of Halycz". I've had enough. Valentinian ^(talk) 13:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

This monarch was not exactly ruler of purely Russian land, and I foresee there are people who do not want this to be under any formulation which may dub this as a Russian. George is a tolerable place, to pre-empt some of such. Don't want an Ukrainian or Belarusan riot. Maed 13:58, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Strong oppose the rule is the most known name used in English. Google has 0 hits for "George of Halych" (except 1 from a page you've edited.) Yuriy is not normally translated as "George", so it fails on two counts. Valentinian ^(talk) 18:23, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Comment. My biggest issue on naming, has to do with which references are being used. This individual is not particularly well-known -- I've been unable to find a mention of him in any of my encyclopedias (and I don't have access to Ukraine-specific information at the moment). And there are no references listed on the page aside from an external link to a German-language family tree, so I have to ask, where is this information coming from? If it's coming from an English source, then the name on the Wikipedia article should probably reflect whatever name is used in that source. If the info is being translated from another language though, then the issue becomes trickier. --Elonka 19:24, 23 June 2006 (UTC)