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Strange, there is no mention of his mother in the article at all. WHO is/was his mother?
[edit] George HW Bush major at Yale?
Other more recent president bios show major at college. Probably would be useful to have here too. Anybody know what it was? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rhemmen (talk • contribs) 23:21, 27 January 2007 (UTC).
- A quick google search turned up the answer. I posted one source, but there are many. Justin stocks 22:56, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] George H.W. Bush becomes chairman at the National Constitution Center
I think this blurb should be included under the "Post-Presidency section"
"On January 11, 2007 the National Constitution Centerand CEO Joseph M. Torsella announced that President George H.W. Bush was elected Chairman of the Center’s Board of Trustees for the year 2007. The Center is the only organization for which President Bush serves as Chairman.
[edit] So he never worked in the CIA?
I thought he did for a time.
-G
- Yes, he did. He was Director of the CIA at one time. It's mentioned in the 1970's section. Arx Fortis 05:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
There was a memo written by J. Edgar Hoover about CIA agent George Bush, who was in Dallas on the day of John F. Kennedy's assasination. Bush claims it was another agent named George Bush. He also claims that he doesn't remember where he was when JFK was assassinated, despite the fact that psychologists would use that event to recall the memory of people with amnesia.
[edit] Order of the Cross of Terra Mariana
On September 15th 2005 President George Harald Walker Bush got a decoration of the highest class on aliens who have rendered special services to the Republic of Estonia (the Order of the Cross of Terra Mariana) from the President of the Republic of Estonia, Arnold Rüütel.
[edit] election maps
just on a sideline, does anyone know why these maps show the republicans in blue and democrats in red when it was the other way around for the last 2 U.S. elections? just kinda weird how both parties can switch colours in only 8 years --Danlibbo 01:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- I think traditionally red and blue were used to the challenger and incumbent respectively until they somehow got fixed on Republican=red and Democrat=blue.GordyB 19:58, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
- Please see Red state vs. blue state divide JPotter 23:42, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
>Would there be any way to switch the colors, since most people think that red is for Republicans, and blue for Democrats?
[edit] Carrier
The following statement is incorrect: "The first modified \'\'Nimitz\'\'-class aircraft carrier George H. W. Bush-subclass will be named USS \'\'George H. W. Bush\'\' when it is launched in 2008. [16] "
The carrier was launched October 9, 2006. http://www.nn.northropgrumman.com/bush/photo_gallery_construction.html
- Thanks for noticing that. I've fixed it. In the future "be bold" and make the correction yourself. Cheers, -Will Beback · † · 00:27, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pearl Harbor
I removed the following section
"As a student at Phillips Academy, Bush learned of the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941."
Seemed pretty unnecessary, unless there was something noteworthy about it. I would expect just about everyone alive learned about those attacks on December 7th. Regoarrarr 21:48, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Read My Lips No new taxes
Hey! I thought you are stealing Ronald Raegan's line here!--Darrendeng 09:52, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] allegedly attempted to assassinate
Under Post-Presidency 'In April 1993, the Iraqi Intelligence Service allegedly attempted to assassinate former President Bush via car bomb during a visit to Kuwait.' A link to the following article by the highly credible and mainstream Seymour Hersh should be added. I cannot, it is locked. But perhaps someone else can. Maybe 'Iraqi Intelligence Service allegedly attempted to assassinate' should be the link? http://www.newyorker.com/archive/content/articles/020930fr_archive02?020930fr_archive02 Denghopper 15:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I am surprised no one has added the link yet to the article. Leaving out a highly credible source putting the allegation to the test, leaves us with idea that has floated around in the popular media that such allegations are true. Leading one to possibly think: having the term 'allegation' on there is only needed because it has not been proven in a court of law yet. "But of course true." One might be given to believe this because Saddam Hussein was undoubtedly a bad, wicked person. Denghopper 14:10, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reason for not occupying Iraq/deposing saddam
Article quotes GHBush explaining his line of reasoning to troops. That same reasoning is expanded upon in the co-authored book A World Transformed. A reference to this could probably be made. Snopes has the relevant passage[1]
A nice quote that might be relevant given GWBush ignored his example:
"Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different — and perhaps barren — outcome."
[edit] Zapata and CIA
I reverted the info from realnews.org for the sole reason that I am not sure they would be considered a sufficient source under WP:BLP. Bush has always denied any relationship with the agency prior to '76 and I am not certain that that source is sufficient to rebut his assertions. I would have kept it in and then had the discussion, but according to BLP it is suggested to revert first then have discussion. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 19:49, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- Understood. If I post with cites that reference the CIA docs directly, do you think that makes the post ok? I trust your judgement. It'll be interesting to see if there's any more news on this.Joegoodfriend 20:00, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- Normally the citations to the CIA documents wouldn't be as much as a problem. But since it's being used to contradict a position of the subject who is still living (and as such is arguably negative) then you probably can't use them and satify BLP, either. I'd just wait and see if it is picked up by some of the more reputable MSM. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 20:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- The story is not being picked up or expanded by any MSM, so I guess that's it for now. Apparently, this is meant to be a tantalizing 'hangout' of information by researchers working on a book. Joegoodfriend 23:23, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
- Normally the citations to the CIA documents wouldn't be as much as a problem. But since it's being used to contradict a position of the subject who is still living (and as such is arguably negative) then you probably can't use them and satify BLP, either. I'd just wait and see if it is picked up by some of the more reputable MSM. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 20:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Signature
A while ago I removed the signature from the infobox because it was that of George W. Bush. I don't know what people have been using as sources for the other presidents, but can somebody add it? —Fumo7887 (talk • contribs) 22:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Categories
So, is Mr. Bush from Greenwich, Connecticut, Maine, Norfolk County, Massachusetts, or Midland, Texas? I'm trying to reduce down some of the pages at Special:Mostcategories and this is right at the top of the list.
I've removed "People from Massachussetts" as "People from Norfolk County, Massachusetts" is a subset of this.
I've removed "Americans with Huguenot ancestry" as there's no reference to this in the article. Proto::► 10:50, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cocaine dealer???
I'm not arguing, but the first line about GWH Bush is just political propaganda. I'm from Italy, not american, and often use Wikipedia as a source for my researches or attempts to improve the knowledge about facts I'm not fully or even partly aware of. I find really disgusting addressing a president - on the very first line of his biography - as a cocaine dealer. I'm not his lawyer, nor am a supporter of him and/or his son, but would like to find here real information. Thanks to the writer of the article for informing me and the whole world that this former president has been involved in a drug trial, but I do think that it would have been more proper writing it in the list of facts, NOT at the beginning. As far as I know, he's worldwide known for having being one of the US presidents, not for drug scandals (which, I don't doubt, may have been nonetheless real). On the other hand, it is as dangerous as if I were writing Fidel Castro's (it's just an example) biography, starting with: FC is a cancer affected and bearded man who killed and imprisoned thousands of people in his homeland... I'd better start with the story of him as leader of a revolution, then self-proclaimed president, then I would stress his friendship with Che Guevara and the "Pigs' Bay" facts, and ONLY after telling this I would express the dark side of his life (imprisonments, murdering of oppositors, etc.). I hope everyone understood my feelings, which AREN'T AT ALL moved by political reasons, but for the sake of knowledge. Wikipedia is a huge source for everybody, not a "Larry King Show" where to express personal ideas: there's plenty of forums and chats and websites out there where to go to express one's personal positions. Thanks for your patience and attention,
Guglielmo Gallesi, Rome - Italy —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.6.211.109 (talk) 11:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC).
- occassionally, other users write in deliberately false information on wikipedia articles just to be funny. It's not a very good source out there because of this. It's a double-sided sword... I think you know this by now, but try not to take unsourced information as fact. --Evildevil 06:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
I put that in there, because he is a coke dealer, or at least was. Its not a political opinion; it's a Fact. Ihateswine 23:52, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Above Picture
Can somebody please correct his name? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.150.57.0 (talk) 15:39, 25 January 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Secession boxes
These should be added for his terms in the US House, and as Chair of the GOP, CIA Director, Vice-President, and President. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.86.240.239 (talk) 23:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC).
[edit] post presidency news and events
I changed the sentence about allowing the other living former Presidents as honorary members of the World Trade Center.... blah// to "the other former Presidents living at the time" - as Former President Gerald Ford has past on... Hope there is no debate! Jgrizzy89 03:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pesident Bush
President Bush is a good person. I like him very much. luv yah —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.51.138.42 (talk) 22:35, 15 February 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Format of Names
What is the accepted format here? - an editor changed the name of Bush's successor from Bill Clinton, to William Jefferson Clinton, but the forgot to change his precedessor's name from Ronald Reagan to Ronald Wilson Reagan at the same time. Which is correct - fully spelt out name, or generally accepted short name? --Xagent86 (Talk | contribs) 12:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Marvin Bush
Why isn't his son Marvin Bush mentioned here?
- Heck, why isn't his mistress Jennifer Fitzgerald mentioned?K8 fan 22:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Burial site picture
Would a picture of the couple's burial site be appropriate for this article? Here are some pictures I found on Flickr that can be uploaded under the Flickr/CC Commons Attribution license. --Blueag9\talk 09:39, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] H.W
why is it George H.W Bush rather than just George Bush? Like John Adams and John Quincy Adams —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.26.102.42 (talk) 01:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC).
