Talk:George H. Gay, Jr.

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Addressed to George Gay's Grandson —

I'll stop reverting if you can provide a source here or on the article for the information you're posting. Wikipedia doesn't allow first-hand research, so unless you can find a source that contradicts what's written, I'm afraid we have to keep that information posted. As for the link, Wikipedia doesn't allow links to personal or business websites, and I think it would be appropriate to leave it out of the article. Thank you for making an effort to contribute! ~ Butros (Talk) 06:04, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

This seems to disprove:

"However, comparison of his claims with known Japanese movements demonstrates that the enemy task force was at least 20 miles "below the horizon" and invisible to him at the time of the second attack."

So I won't revert the text, but I still don't think we need a link to a business website. ~ Butros (Talk) 23:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

The Navy web site is wrong in its assertion that Ensign Gay could see the Japanese carriers at the time they were attacked by US dive bombers almost an hour after Torpedo 8's demise. Aside from the combined US-Japanese track chart in Volume IV of Samuel E. Morison's History of US Navy Operations, basic math confirms that ships making an average 28 knots were a good 20 miles away. The Navy site seems to duplicate Ensign Gay's report more or less verbatim, made after he had been shot down, wounded, and adrift at sea for a day or more.

[edit] Ensign Gay not only survivor of Torpedo 8

It's worth noting that while Ensign Gay was the only survivor of the Torpedo 8 attack launched from the Hornet, there was a detatchment of the same squadron operating from Midway Isle itself that also attacked the Japanese fleet, and one plane survived from that attack (piloted by Ensign Albert K. Earnest; of his two aircrew, only Seaman Manning, his ventral gunner, survived). cite from navy.mil--Raguleader 09:46, 2 December 2006 (UTC)