Talk:Gentlemen's club

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[edit] Article name

This article began life as "Gentlemen's Clubs" because that is what the clubs to which I belong call such clubs and because that is how Anthony Lejeune styles them. Similarly, private clubs exclusively for women (such as the New Cavendish Club) call themselves "Ladies' Clubs". --Theo (Talk) 19:17, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Just for awareness: googling gentlemen's.club site:uk finds 4300 articles, while gentleman's.club site:uk finds 4400. I believe and agree that the first spelling is the traditional one, but it's devolved over time. Globally, men's beats man's 73K to 43K. --Dhartung | Talk 23:16, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I performed the same analysis before selecting the name (including varied apostrophe placements) and found a similarly even split but I did not analyse how many of the hits pertained to what were originally called 'gentlemen's clubs'. Google can be a bit of a blunt instrument for this kind of analysis. --Theo (Talk) 23:27, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] English Gentlemen's Clubs, description of

I'm not sure it's correct for the disambiguation entry pointing to the UK variant to call these "Country Clubs". I say this because most of them are in cities, in fact usually London, and so they don't offer facilities which are usual for US Country Clubs (e.g. golf and so forth). --JamesYoungman (Talk) 21:30, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

How should we describe them, then? Max Spades 21:49, 28 August 2005

The current text is OK (has it been changed?). Otherwise, they could be described as "social and dining clubs for affluent or aristocratic men (and, sometimes, women)" --JamesYoungman (Talk) 23:36, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I have refined the description although I feel that it still implies that these are an English phenomenon. Many clubs of this kind now admit women and most now are outside the UK. Consider the University Club in Philadelphia, The Harvard Club in Boston and New York and many others around the world. —Theo (Talk) 16:13, 31 August 2005 (UTC)