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This article was nominated for deletion on Febuary 9, 2006. The result of the discussion was Keep.

1 Einstein?
2 Olivia Newton-John!
3 Other Branches
4 Format
5 Suggestion
6 Dirac medals, Sakurai prizes, etc =

[edit] Einstein?

Is he not in there? Would be nice to see his connections. Anyway: I really like this list, very interesting. Are there more genealogies, for other fields? I would like to see for example where other scientists like John C. Lilly fit in. --Thomas 15:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Olivia Newton-John!

I love the fact that Olivia Newton-John is in here. :) —rodii 21:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, it has been deleted in the name of academicims. But you can point to older versions of the page if you need to document it elsewhere 155.210.68.89 19:12, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other Branches

Please build here partial trees having no Nobel Prizes

(Millikan school)

(Bridgman school)

(Rowland school)

William Hodge
- Michael Atiyah (Cambridge 1955)
  - Simon Donaldson (Oxford 1982 coadv Hitchin)

Gaston Julia
- Jacques Dixmier
  - Alain Connes
    - Georges Skandalis
    - Michel Hilsum

[edit] Format

Can we agree on a uniform style of names? I suggest. since it is about people, all names be unabbreviated, in natural order eg Richard Bongo Feynman, not Feynman, R. Currently, the page is a jumble of both types. Also, every name a link: Richard Feynman. GangofOne 19:19, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Also, can we come up with a better name than Genealogy of Theoretical Physicists? It's not really a genealogy. It's not the transfer of genes, more about memes. A Memeology of Theorectical Physicists. GangofOne 20:02, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

This kind of thing is usually called an "academic genealogy". Maybe Academic genealogy of theoretical physicists? (No reason for capitalization either.)--ragesoss 20:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

In fact we need to decide if to call it "scientifc genealogy" or "academic genealogy" because one of the suggestions during the deletion discussion was to do a separate entry to explain how this genealogies are done. Arivero 17:55, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion

This is an interesting idea, but the information should be presented as a huge causal net, i.e. a huge two-dimensional png image which one can use sidebars or whatever to move over. I realize that preparing such a figure would be a major (but cool!) exercise for some talented programmer.

I'd like to see such a project for famous mathematicians, using the incomplete but nonetheless invaluable Mathematics geneology project. See John C. Baez for a tiny portion of the causal net illustrating mathematical geneology. To get some idea of the size of the project, note that C. F. Gauss has at least 30702 descendants. Of course, only a small fraction of these are truly notable, and I'd urge anyone interested in pursuing this to try to draw up some criteria for mathematical notability (for example, one criterion could be description of some theorem ascribed to mathematician M in at least one fairly recent textbook on a mathematical subject, by someone other than M). ---CH 00:33, 5 April 2006 (UTC)