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[edit] January 6th & 7th 2007 changes
(Apologies that this is so long) Having spent sometime looking at this page and some of the justified criticisms of it I decided to rewrite it. For any one who looked at teh French or Spanish versions of the page the previous English version was shocking. All that the older version conveyed (and tried to) is still conveyed by the new one. I have deleted the "weasel words" tag on top of the page - because I completely changed the offending section - Gender in Psychology. If others find bias here then it should be re-tagged.
Major changes Gender studies is a field of Cultural Studies that analyzes the phenomenon of gender, both in people's lived experience and cultural representations. Gender Studies is sometimes related to studies of class, race, ethnicity and location.”[1] - I added this line to make clear what Gender Studies does and its scope. None of the previous editors made clear that HOW gender is studied, depends upon WHAT is being studied. If pictures, text, or film/video is being examined then the study is about the representations of gender. But if , for instance, differences between male and female salaries is being analyzed then it is people's experience of gender (and how it is socially and economically constructed) that the study will examine. I am aware that these lines are dense if it is too concise in people's opinion then it needs to be changed. In Gender Studies the word "gender" is used to refer to the social and cultural constructions of masculinities and femininities. The term does not refer to biological difference, but rather cultural difference. [...] (See also Gender#In_feminist_theory) - Due to some criticism on this talk page which confuses gender with sex I have included a piece on the terminology gender which is referred to by other gender articles. Its omission here up until now is quite extraordinary. Studies of the role of gender have been under taken in many academic areas, such as: literary theory, drama studies, film theory, performance theory, anthropology, sociology, and psychology (to name but a few). These studies have different focuses on how and where they study gender... - As with my first change I added this piece to make clear the different approaches within Gender Studies. Gender Studies and Psychoanalytic Theory In place of the old, weasel worded piece I've compilied a very short list of places that Gender Studies has been influenced by psychoanalytic theory: Sigmund Freud, Jacques Lacan and Julia Kristeva. I have also tagged it with: need for expansion.
Major deletions Work in gender studies influences and is influenced by the related fields of Ethnic Studies, African American Studies, Asian American Studies, Latino/a Studies, and Native American Studies. - I deleted this piece because it is ironically ethnocentric, focusing on American Ethnic Studies. There is no need to have a list these different areas of Ethnic Studies, because the umbrella is more inclusive without one. While work in gender studies is principally found in humanities departments and publications (in areas such as English literature and other literary studies), it is also found in social-scientific areas such as women's studies, anthropology, sociology, and psychology. - While I tend to agree with this statement I cannot verify it. I also consider this sentence to be a source of "weasel words", so I consider its deletion to be appropriate. The Gender in Psychology This piece had no place here - it was related to Gender not Gender Studies and was extremely badly written.
Expansions References: this article had no references, which for an article on an academic field was ridiculous. However the references that I have added are just preliminary, more are needed and more will be added as more sections are added. See also: links to other pertinent Wikipedia articles were found and added. External Links: links to pages on the web - found at the Gender page were added.
Merger? I've left the merger tag - even-though I strongly disagree with it. Feminism is related to but not the same as Gender Studies.--Cailil 23:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- It's a start, but this article is still awfully mediocre. I'm not particularly comfortable with the classification that gender studies is part of cultural studies without some compelling source (I'm a gender studies and a cultural studies major, and the course content and work I've taken in each have tended to be quite different), and the topic could do with a decent, properly sourced definition in any case. Your deletions all make sense, and it's nice to see someone making a start on referencing. I'd also have no objection to removing the merger tag, as I don't think it's necessary. Rebecca 23:54, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments. I agree with you about the definition. Perhaps it should be re-phrased as: "Gender studies is a field of interdisciplinary study, analyzing the phenomenon of gender. It examines both cultural representations of gender and people's lived experience of it." I'll alter the definition to this for the moment. I'm a Cultural Studies graduate myself (but on the other side of the world in Ireland) and I'm doing my PhD within Gender Studies. Thanks again for your comments.--Cailil 00:41, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- I think that's an improvement, yeah. :) Rebecca 04:56, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
If nobody else has any objections I'll remove the merger tag on Sunday.--Cailil 18:49, 12 January 2007 (UTC) As foretold I'm removing merger tag. It's been here since September 2006 without any overwhelming arguments for merger beingput forward. Feel free to re-tag if you can make a case for such a merger.--Cailil 16:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Minor edits Jan. 13 2007
I've been doing some more work on the page today. 1st I took-up Dfziggy's point and created a history of GS category. After some thought I decided to put the Gender and Psychoanalytic Theory section within this. I've also moved one of the previous header paragraphs down into the history section, under the title The Post-modern Influence. I briefly added a small paragraph on Mary Joe Frug but I've started to find it objectionable. A part of is in the article's history - if you want to take a look. (My objection is to an apparent conflation of sex and gender in the piece by Frug - am currently reading it). Judith Butler really got there first as well, but if any one wants to argue the case for Frug go ahead. I've also dispensed with the Literature section by adding the books (plus a few new ones) to the references section. Also would someone like to take a look at the External links:
- Project "Women's History and Gender History in Westphalia" (in German)
- uniGENDER - online journal (in Polish)
- WikEd - Gender Inequities in the Classroom
All look less than notable to me, any opinions--Cailil 01:37, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Tagged as Undersconstruction
I've added tag {{Undersconstruction}} for the time being. It will make it clear to passers-by that this page is not finished and not perfect. My aim with this page is to make it as good as it can be - FA status is a little ambitous but I think that should be aeveryone's aim for an article.--Cailil 15:57, 16 January 2007 (UTC) Tag removed.--Cailil 01:05, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] criticism section
I've added the criticisms of Paul Nathanson and Katherine Young with a review of their book criticizing their approach.--Cailil 01:07, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
