User talk:Gavin Wilson

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Hello, Gavin Wilson, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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[edit] Old Dittonians

I am a bit worried about the notability of the people whose bios you have been putting up. I won't tag any more myself but do not be surprised if others mark them as {{nn-bio}}. You may be better off creating your own website. -- RHaworth 20:10, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I found a couple on new pages patrol that didn't seem to evidence or assert notability to the levels of WP:BIO and did mark as {{db-bio}}. Also, be aware that per WP:NOT, specifically Wikipedia is not a directory, point 2, we frown on genealogical entries, and often reduce or eliminate genealogical information from articles. GRBerry 20:40, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

It is not against the rules to remove a prod as you did to George Jarvis but I am concerned that you have done nothing to establish the guy's notability - indeed I do not think he his is notable. I would like you to leave a note here to confirm that you have read these messages. As a gentle hint that we mean what we say, I have agreed with GRBerry and deleted Erasmus Forde. -- RHaworth 21:07, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Messages seen. Fortunately I have a back-up of the hurriedly deleted articles. I was going to build the articles up over the period of several days, explaining the criminal notoriety of each individual. But you clearly want to improve your Deletions count when not writing fascinating articles about STD codes. User:Gavin Wilson 22:40, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Please assume good faith when responding to others. You'll have a more pleasant time participating, so will they, and it is official policy, so that repeated or flagrant violations can lead to sanctions. I don't know anyone here who wants to improve a deletion count - but plenty of people here that want to improve the average quality of the enyclopedia. We get thousands of new articles started daily, a large fraction of which are not worth keeping, including articles not in English, non-encyclopedic topics, spam/advertising, to more flagrant vandalism. I don't know how many get speedy deleted each day, but from regularly participating in the PROD and AFD processes I know that about 200 a day go that way.
Best form when removing a prod tag is to do one of the following: 1) improve the article in a way that addresses the stated concern, 2) explain on the article's talk page why you feel it already addresses the concern or 3) at least use an edit summary explaining why it already addresses the concern. Removing a prod without doing any of those leads some observers to believe that the article either can't be improved or won't be improved.
Also, if you have a bunch of articles to work on, I recommend getting one in good shape then starting the others. If you want to get an article in shape with temporary edits, you can always use a user sub-page, such as User:Gavin Wilson/Erasmus Forde to work on a draft until you think it is built up to good conditions. See Wikipedia:Subpages#How to create user subpages for instructions on creating them. Once it is ready, move it to the desired title. If you don't yet have the ability to move (acquired 4 days after you registered your username), ask someone on their talk page (I'm on a few times a day most weekdays). GRBerry 00:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I understand your points, but I don't accept them all. Most importantly, I believe it is extraordinarily rude of anyone to delete an article on the day it was written. *1* To do so without knowing whether the author has made a back-up copy and without warning (or at least without knowing whether the author has seen the warning) compounds the slight. Deleting the Erasmus Forde article means the deleter believes there is no interest in a man who was effectively Chancellor of the Exchequer to Edward IV. I just don't see how one person can make such a judgement, particularly given the pettiness of many of the subjects covered here. And given that the deleter seems generally to be more interested in technical than in historical subjects, I think he should think twice before deleting, wait a few days, and leave it to someone else. However it looks like he's bigger than me, and lives relatively nearby, so I will not press the matter. User:Gavin Wilson 06:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

*1* It is common practice for nonsense articles to disappear within minutes of their creation. Yours I agree was far from nonsense but GRBerry did warn you that the articles had been tagged. You were active at the time, so could not have missed the warning and you had 20 minutes to apply the {{hangon}} tag. In any case how was the deleter to know that the guy was effectively Chancellor of the Exchequer? That should have been the first thing you wrote about him and in the first paragraph of the article. GRBerry has advised above on the use of user pages and I also say: work on one article at a time and use User:Gavin Wilson/sandbox.

I hope you also noticed that in the case of George Jarvis, I did use the tag that gives you a few days.

Actually I do have some interest in history but nearer to Edward Viii than Edward Iv. See for example the detailed caption to this picture or these not a million miles from Thames Ditton. -- RHaworth 08:37, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removing Speedy Delete Tag from Boyle Farm Island

Please stop removing speedy deletion notices from articles, as you did with Boyle Farm Island. It is considered vandalism. You may place {{hangon}} on the page and make your case on the article's talk page if you oppose an article's speedy deletion. Thanks.

It looks like you made a substantial improvement to the article after it was tagged for deletion, but you still should not remove the tag. --Joe 23:19, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Has anyone thought that authors may consider it vandalism if these Wikipedia prefects recommend deletion within 10 minutes of the article being created?? The tone of these 'speedy deletion' tags has to be improved, otherwise it just sounds like the elite is trying to crush the newcomer.Gavin Wilson 06:35, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Don't moan. You were advised to use a personal sandbox to avoid the problem and you have not done so. -- RHaworth 23:44, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for being so diplomatic. Gavin Wilson 08:44, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] "Ralphe de Imworth" is up for deletion

Here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ralphe de Imworth. FYI, it may make your life a little easier to create articles in your user space like so: User:Gavin Wilson/Ralphe de Imworth (I created this as an example), and then move them into the main article space when they're ready for primetime. User space articles have a much lower threshold of acceptability. You can ask an Admin to move the previously deleted articles into your user space if you want to work on them some more. Cheers! - Richfife 19:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies

Seeing that you are an active member of the WikiBiography Project, I was wondering if you would help lend a hand in helping us clear out the amount of unassessed articles tagged with {{WPBiography}}. Many of them are of stub and start class, but a few are of B or A caliber. Getting a simple assessment rating can help us start moving many of these biographies to a higher quality article. Thank you! --Ozgod 20:41, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Apprentice UK

Image:Fired!.png Hello, Gavin Wilson. Are you a fan of The Apprentice UK? I'd like to invite you to become a part of WikiProject The Apprentice UK, a WikiProject aiming to improve coverage of The Apprentice UK and related articles on Wikipedia.

If you would like to help out and participate, please come over and visit us here for more information. Thanks! Dalejenkins 18:53, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A WikiProject you may be interested in...

Hi there! I notice you're from Surrey - please take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Surrey, which I started earlier this afternoon. Cheers.--Vox Humana 8' 21:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

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