Talk:Gatineau

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The result of the discussion was not to merge.--Skeezix1000 16:24, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose. It's not clear to me that there is any value to List of Gatineau roads, and adding lengthy lists here will simply render the Gatineau, Quebec article unreadable. I note that it is rare for an article on a city to include a list of roads within the municipal boundaries -- if the list exists at all, it's in a separate article.Skeezix1000 11:17, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

• Ottawa's road list page is separated so why do Gatineau wouldn't have its own road list page instead of being listed in the main Gatineau page. It has a lot of big roads for a city of nearly a quarter of a million. Keep in mind that the list will be gradually updated slowly but surely. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JForget (talk • contribs).

Fine to have a road list on a distinct page; it keeps the main article uncluttered. But delete or merge all the individual articles about individual streets; these are just silly. If there's enough notable content on all of them together to warrant a Roads of Gatineau page, so be it. John Reid 01:59, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose - the "list of" article should be kept seperate. --Shuki 22:30, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move.

Gatineau, Quebec → Gatineau – Reason for proposed move:Gatineau already redirects to Gatineau, Quebec, and the name is unique so there is no risk of confusion with another city or town. The proposed move is consistent with the Canadian naming convention ("Places which either have unique names or are unquestionably the most significant place sharing their name, such as Quebec City or Toronto, can have undisambiguated titles"), and is in line with recent moves of Canadian cities such as Lethbridge, Saskatoon, Edmonton, etc. Skeezix1000 11:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

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• Support, as the nominator. Skeezix1000 11:34, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
• Support; possible future conflict with Gatineau Paris[1], but the city is clearly more notable than the cosmetic company and can be easily disambiguated. Pburka 13:08, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
• Support Why not? Already redirects here. This is Canada, and we can't discriminate against the French. -Royalguard11(Talk)(Desk) 23:17, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
• Support this has been done for many Canadian cities recently such as Edmonton, Calgary, Winnepeg, Flin Flon, and Davie Village. --64.229.74.60 23:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Davie Village is a neighbourhood in Vancouver. --Usgnus 00:00, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
    • My mistake. But the point is that was moved as well. It was originally at Davie Village, Vancover, Canada. --64.229.74.60 02:03, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
• Support. Because: use most common name used to reference the subject of the article when there are no known signficant conflicts. Now if only we applied the same consistent logic to U.S. city article names that we apply to every other article in Wikipedia... --Serge 18:12, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose : Simply because we should keep the province in the article name. --Deenoe 01:49, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose : What about Gatineau County, Gatineau Hills, Gatineau River, Gatineau Park, Gatineau (electoral district), Gatineau (former city), Gatineau (the original city), Pointe-Gatineau, etc, etc... I don't think Gatineau is large enough to warrant a move. -- Earl Andrew - talk 02:42, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Comment Here come the religious US policy followers. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 22:19, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Size has nothing to do with warranting a move -- there was no consensus to adding a size threshold to the Canadian naming convention. Second, all of the matters you have listed relate to the City of Gatineau (some of which, like Pointe Gatineau and the former city are constituent parts of the city), so there is absolutely no risk of confusion. And finally, using that logic, Ottawa should be renamed (Ottawa River, Ottawa Valley, Ottawa Centre (electoral district), etc.), not to mention London (London Bridge, London Philharmonic, etc.), Paris (Paris Hilton, Paris 1919 (book), etc.), and so on. Skeezix1000 23:37, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Not to mention it would make no sense whatsoever to make this article coform to a forein naming convention. If anyone else wants to oppose this please make sure your objections are covered by the Canadian convention. --64.229.73.156 22:44, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose, and not because of some US convention. I have no problem with Calgary, Winnipeg, etc. (well maybe Lethbridge would benefit from having Alberta in the article name). But Gatineau is too new and I think it should stay at Gatineau, Quebec. Maybe this dates me, but when I hear Gatineau, I think of the river, the park, the hills, Pointe-Gatineau. Gatineau as the main name for that urban area to me sounds like making Montreal part of Laval or Toronto part of Mississauga. It shoulda been Hull!!! Gatineau should be the disambiguation page, just like Saguenay, another river name recently used for a city created by amalgamations. Luigizanasi 00:22, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

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• The request succeeded. --Dijxtra 12:32, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

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