Talk:Gary McKinnon
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[edit] Questions
Anyone know what the law involved in the US is? Zetetic Apparatchik 22:46, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Was this guy on NPR? If so, when? -Hoekenheef 18:37, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] hack to crack and back to hack
re user editing hack to crack. That may be correct usage, but as it's a quote and the word is "hack" in the quote I've changed it back.... to hack. -- Hakluyt bean 19:55, 6 May 2006 (UTC) (aka Dr Seuss)
[edit] Risk of Bias?
This line: Especially considering his claims of other crackers being on the same machine, who have so far failed to leak the alleged documentation. This is a smart point, but equally one reason might be to avoid the risk of arrest? I'm also a bit uneasy with black hat, or anyway uneasy with the cumulative effect of recent changes. There's a legal attempt to paint Mckinnon in a negative light (understandably). But, we shouldn't do much more than suggest it. Because that wouldn't be understandable. Despite what he apparently admits to, he hasn't been found guilty of anything. -- Hakluyt bean 00:25, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
- Hm... good point on the "black hat" part. I'm going to edit that slightly. --SheeEttin 19:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Most likely Black Hat?
Well, we do KNOW this... he's a hacker. We can't be sure if he's truly a grey hat or black hat hacker. Evidence shows and he also makes it quite clear that he did not intentionally harm the machines he accessed. He apparently did NOT financially profit from the access and the Govt. makes no such claims against him. Also, he says his intentions were for the greater good. That's typical of a grey hat. Of course, it's too early to claim that until more evidence is released, but it's also way too early to say he's a likely black hat as well. I think it's safe to say he's most likely grey hat, but for the sake of NPOV, we should go with "he's likely Grey hat OR Black hat". Cowicide 20:18, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
I bet the $700000 was just what the IT guy charged when he fixed the government's computers. "Ooh, this not be cheap." Drumnbach 16:43, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I personally dont find it credible that the US government left their computer sensitive military systems online withoput basic password protection. Perhaps a group of 12 reasonable but computer illiterate people might believe it but to 12 reasonable computer literate people it sounds less credible than the alleged UFO cover up. Of course if McKinnon had been white hat he would have set up a UK security company and immediately let the US gov know there was a flaw in their system and made sure he got well paid for his work. The day of the grey hat may be passing, SqueakBox 17:04, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Scottish...
Only, I note he has an English accent. Naturally if he considers himself Scottish rather than simply being born in Scotland that would be a fair self-description, but his legal predicament depends on his being British, rather than Scottish. On the basis of the article at the moment you could call the UK Prime Minister Scottish...
The term 'Scottish hacker' is additionally misleading unless he was part of some particularly 'Scottish' hacking scene, and I'm not aware that he was, and even then I'm not sure of the significance. By contrast if he was say Welsh,and belonged to a Welsh-language scene, then that would be interesting. Hakluyt bean 11:32, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I changed it. Re Scottishness, 'born in Glasgow' covers it. Hakluyt bean 20:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mispelt word under Statements of the Media
There was a spelling mistake on the word "goal" (was before gaol) so I changed it :) but I didn't log in :( sorry --Wakimakirolls 20:57, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
- "...by trying to impose an exemplary goal sentence"? The word "gaol" would, in some parts of the world, be spelled "jail". I've changed it back, but the sentence still doesn't make sense, though - no pun intended. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 21:35, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Since it sounds like a paraphrase of a quote, I'm leaving it "gaol", but if it's not McKinnon's own words, then "prison" would make more sense. In the meantime I think many English speakers (American, Canadian, and non-native) may not recognize this word, so I thought it would be helpful to link to the gaol wiki so people know it's not a typo. --enharmonix 18:48 22 August 2006 (UTC-6:00)
I dont think English speakers should have too many problems with this word and as it is an American prison he is facing it seems appropriate. TVGH 00:07, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Article
There is an interesting article about mckinnon in the december issue of details magazine. Sometimesseespeople 13:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Badly written paragraph
Gary McKinnon also claims that the USA is trying to make him a scapegoat by trying to impose an exemplary gaol (jail) sentence on him (up to 70 years) extraditing him to the USA for trial. His lawyer also claims he could end up in the notorious Guantanamo Bay used to hold 'terrorist' suspects. His supporters claim that making him a scapegoat will not fend off other hackers as most think they will not get caught.[1]
This paragraph repeats what is said elsewhere, is dubiously written and that is not a true source for this info. Now can I delete it? --84.68.162.114 22:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
