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[edit] Icelandic Sheepdogs

Hi Reinhardt!

I improved your russian article about "Icelandic Sheepdogs" because it was not good enough to name it as "article", so I had a choice - either delete it or improve it. I decided that it's better to improve it :) Indeed I'm not suach a dog-fancier, at least I have no dog at home, but when I was a child I had a German Shepherd, he was really smart dog.

In Russian Wikipedia there is a lack of articles about dogs, I hope it will be changed soon.

About Коикерхондье (Kooiker Dog) you may read at:

http://demo.e-dog.ru/dogs.phtml?dog=283&pos=24&abc=%CA

I know that you cannot read Russian but you can authomatically translate text using online services like http://babel.altavista.com/

If you need my assistance please write to me at my Russian or English talk pages.

Greetings, Maxim

[edit] Pictures of your dogs

  • I looked around the website, and didn't see any that were better than the one nominated for featured picture status. Just look for more opportunities to take more pictures with a good camera, in good light of the entire dog, preferably in some sort of great pose, like in the nominated picture. It was just the grass in front of the dog that I found distracting. And, the higher resolution, the better. - [[User:Bevo|Bevo]] 05:28, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Thanks Bewo! I moved your answer to my talks. Regards Gangleri 12:27, 2004 Sep 25 (UTC)

[edit] re:dog photos

I think you need to read the featured picture guidelines, basically a featured picture must be technically good and make a significant number of folks watching say "wow". Don't take it personally that your photo is rejected. Dunc_Harris|☺ 12:42, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Global all Wikipedias Whatlinkshere

No, there is not, only with Google, like http://www.google.com/search?q=link:http%3A%2F%2Fen%2Ewikipedia%2Eorg%2Fwiki%2FWikipedia (does not give a complete list).--Patrick 04:22, 2004 Sep 26 (UTC)

[edit] Most perfect magic squares (1)

answers to User talk:Robinh#Most-perfect magic square:

Halló Robin, I saw the article and want to say Halló! At [1] (http://www.geocities.com/~harveyh/most-perfect.htm) the name is David Brée not Bree. I worked also on these squares and read about the work of Dame Kathleen Ollerenshaw and David Brée later. I was contacting Harvey Heinz some weeks ago but could not find the work of Ollerenshaw and Brée. Do you know where to get this book? I stoped working at [2] (http://easy.go.is/gangleri/ferningar/) about four weeks ago. I generate only some straight forward patterns. Just take a look. Regards Gangleri 07:53, 2004 Sep 27 (UTC)

Hi Gangleri
thanks for these comments. I'll change Bree to Brée when I get a minute. The book is not available at Amazon, although there is a listing for it (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/090509106X/qid=1096283450/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-9972703-6880715?v=glance&s=books).
I know your webpage quite well! I'm particularly interested in magic hypercubes. I am writing a suite of magic square tools in the R programming language; do you know R?
best wishes Robinh 11:15, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] WikiMagic

answers to User talk:MacGyverMagic/WikiMagic/Gangleri:

I should've seen those entries from you ages ago. Thanks for contributing. Anyway, I haven't had time to read through the entire thing, but from a quick glance I think some of it could fall under Mathematical magic. I'll archive your work in a subpage of the page it was originally posted on, to keep the page itself clean from article type entries. The WikiMagic talk page is for discussion only.

Don't let me moving your work, stop you from editing it :) [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 19:26, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)

I've finished the move. Your contributions to WikiMagic can now be found at User talk:MacGyverMagic/WikiMagic/Gangleri. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 19:38, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Most perfect magic square (2)

answers to User talk:Robinh#Most-perfect magic square:

Hi Gangleri. Example of a 12x12 most perfect (magic) square follows:

> Ollerenshaw

     [,1] [,2] [,3] [,4] [,5] [,6] [,7] [,8] [,9] [,10] [,11] [,12]
 [1,]   64   92   81   94   48   77   67   63   50    61    83    78
 [2,]   31   99   14   97   47  114   28  128   45   130    12   113
 [3,]   24  132   41  134    8  117   27  103   10   101    43   118
 [4,]   23  107    6  105   39  122   20  136   37   138     4   121
 [5,]   16  140   33  142    0  125   19  111    2   109    35   126
 [6,]   75   55   58   53   91   70   72   84   89    86    56    69
 [7,]   76   80   93   82   60   65   79   51   62    49    95    66
 [8,]  115   15   98   13  131   30  112   44  129    46    96    29
 [9,]  116   40  133   42  100   25  119   11  102     9   135    26
[10,]  123    7  106    5  139   22  120   36  137    38   104    21
[11,]  124   32  141   34  108   17  127    3  110     1   143    18
[12,]   71   59   54   57   87   74   68   88   85    90    52    73
> is.mostperfect(Ollerenshaw)
[1] TRUE
>

(I've just cut-n-pasted it onto the most-perfect wikipage).

I'm putting together a package of computer software for magic square research, using R, and I have a few routines for most perfect (magic) squares.

Cheers

Robinh 14:43, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Hello again Gangleri.

Google's never wrong! One day I'll get round to fleshing out that most-perfect (magic) squares page!

best

Robinh 08:08, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Featured picture candidates resolution and size

answers to User talk:Angela now User talk:Gangleri/archive 01#Featured picture candidates resolution and size:

Hi. I don't think I really am the best person to ask since I don't really care about the resolution as long as the size is at least 300px width for picture of the day. In my opinion, the vast majority of images on Wikipedia are completely unsuitable for print, so objecting to candidates on that basis is not something I would do, although Eloquence and others have done so in the past. I expect as high a resolution as you can manage would be best, but I have no strong opinion on this and can only suggest you look at some of the other featured pictures and see what the standard is, but I expect it varies widely. Angela. 23:28, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Interlanguage categories

answers to User talk:Angela now User talk:Gangleri/archive 01#relatated to categories in different languages:

Hi, I think adding interlanguage links to categories is very useful and I see no reason not to do this. I realize there are difficulties in finding categories in other Wikipedias, and I don't know of any page that attempts to make this easier. However, it would be a very worthwhile project to create something like a page which aims to give translations of the words used for category across the languages, and also promote interlanguage collaboration. I guess this is what you've started at eo:Vikipediisto:Gangleri/farendaĵoj. Meta: would be the best place for a cross-project page where people could help with this. I think it could be maintained simply as a wiki page rather than a database, but perhaps I don't quite understand what you are intending to do?

The Multilingual speedy deletions page already gives translations for the {{delete}} tag, so perhaps something similar could be set up for other common tags.

Personally, I like the idea of using the same icon across projects to help people know what the template is, but I think you'd find it difficult to convince people across projects to use the same icon, or even to use an icon at all. See Template talk:Delete#Image poll for example.

Angela. 03:12, Oct 3, 2004 (UTC)

answers to User talk:Zoney#Irish language:
Níl aon ailt faoi madraí ar ga: faoi lathair! - We don't have any articles on dogs on ga: at the moment. zoney ♣ talk 13:01, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Icelandic Sheepdog

answers to sv:Användardiskussion:Liftarn Isländsk fårhund

Hi! You contacted me at the Swedish Wikipedia about the Icelandic Sheepdog and asked me if I had one. Yes, I have a shorthaired cream and white. // Liftarn

[edit] Ligatures

answers to User talk:Io: and Norse saga:

Hi!

I am pleased to meet you. All the examples you mention on the page

http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660

should indeed be an oe-ligature. The two ligatures were pronounced differently in Old Norse, although they later merged in Icelandic. Oe-ligature was the result of an umlaut with ó as the original vowel, whereas ae-ligature was an umlaut of á. As for browsers displaying or not displaying characters correctly, I would advise you to go to

http://www.mozilla.org

and download their latest stable version. It beats Internet Explorer by leaps and bounds.

I'm going to watch a tv-programme now, but I'll get back to you later.

All the best Io 22:03, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] As I am curious ...

answers to User talk:Io: and Norse saga:

... how did you come to develop an interest in Icelandic? If you need any pointers regarding that language, just post them on my talk page. I'm equally fluent in German and English so you can pick the language. (I envy you your knowledge of Russian, however. It's long been a goal of mine to learn one Slavic and one Baltic language, but you know how it is, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. :) Cheers Io 18:21, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] From Mike(z)

answers to sv:Användardiskussion:Mike#not logged in:

Sorry, I think you were unable to mail me because I obviously had disabled user mail on en:... I have enabled it by now. Conserning your question about IRC, I don't know very much about it, so I can only say that I use Mozilla Firefox, and have installed the extension ChatZilla. After that, it should not be any problems to enter #sv.wikipedia == [irc://irc.freenode.net/sv.wikipedia #sv.wikipedia] through the link you entered. If you use Iexplorer or anything else, I don't know what program you need to install. \Mikez (sv:användare:Mike)

Thanks Mike Gangleri 17:53, 2004 Oct 9 (UTC)
You're welcome \Mikez

[edit] Hi there

answers to User talk:OlofE#It is early morning:

Hi there! First, there's precious little dating for early runestones. There are quite a few that are of the oldest varieties, my guess would be between 300-500 of them (though one could look at hard data instead of guessing, but I don't have it at hand). How many of those are still standing in their original position is just impossible to know but hardly more than a couple dozen. I'm pretty bad at Norwegian stones so I better not guess at the status of that stone.

"My page" - Heh, I'm not sure which page you're talking about here. Assuming it's not something outside wikipedia, I'll guess it's the futhark page, which I did indeed start, long, long ago - however, I cannot in any way claim any glory for what's on that page now. I don't think a single word remains of my writing:-) In fact, "futhark" was just a redirect to another page last I looked. So - I'm glad you enjoy it but don't thank me, talk to all the editors of the page (dozens of them, IIRC). The article has a discussion tab as well where you can discuss its contents with whatever authors are active on the article. Finally, pardon me for being slow in answering, I'm not very active on the English wikipedia nowadays (whatever time I have available to spend on wikipedia goes to the Swedish edition). Cheers, // OlofE 13:30, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] M.İdrisi @ tt:Tatarstan näşriätläre

answers to tt:User talk:Al Beri#M..C4.B0drisi_.40_Tatarstan_n.C3.A4.C5.9Fri.C3.A4tl.C3.A4re:

[edit] About Idrisi in Arabistas

answers to es:Usuario Discusión:Sanbec#Enlaces externos:

Hola Gangleri:

My english is not good and I don´t understand you very well. I think is interesting Idrisi for arabistas.

Can you write about this matter in our Café? Thank you--Sanbec 07:18, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I have moved your questions to es:Wikipedia:Café#Peticiones de Gangleri. Regards. --Sanbec 06:58, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Muhammad al-Idrisi (former Idrisi)

answers to User talk:Dbachmann#Arabic names and Talk:Muhammad al-Idrisi:

Man sollte sich wirklich auf einheitliche Umschriften einigen, nicht nur fuer Arabisch, sondern auch fuer Griechisch, Indisch, Japanisch, Chinesisch usw. Aber das ist mir eine zu grosse Aufgabe, und ich begnuege mich damit, Alternaiven als redirects zu linken. Im Fall "Idrisi" waere ein Titel "Al-Idrisi" wirklich besser. Niemand nennt ihn "Idrisi", und nach der Konvention, Vor- und Nachnamen zu nennen, waere der Titel Muhammad al-Idrisi am besten. dab 09:37, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I added my mustard as requested :P – my aim on WP is to add content, though, and a project to enforce consistent spelling is not something I am prepared to invest too much sweat in... tt can *not* be done in one day, and even if exact guidelines were in place, if they are too complicated, people will tend to ignore them. dab 21:48, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Peticiones

answers from es:Wikipedia:Café#Peticiones de Gangleri:

Welcome Gangleri, it's a pleasure to be able to colaborate with an en wiki member. Whenever I can help you let me know :)--80.58.10.107 21:04, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)Anna.

Hello Gangleri, I read the talks about The little Prince and maybe you find this page useful: http://www.getxoweb.com/Principito/indexprince.html it's a nice page and you can download the whole text in PDF as well. it might be useful to add it as an external link for an article about The Little Prince. It's only in Spanish but I'll try to find something else in English, I've read there is not much about it though. Regards. Anna--80.58.10.107 18:11, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Abwesenheit

Grüß Dich!

Du verzeihst mir hoffentlich, wenn ich keinem während der nächsten Tage antworten kann. Ich bis bis frühestens Sonntag dienstlich abwesend ohne Internetzugang. Bis dann, und alles Beste. Io 12:47, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] wiki.pt

answers to pt:Usuário Discussão:Brian Boru:

Hi there Gangleri. Here is Brian from the portuguese wikipedia. Concerning your first question, unfortunalety, i really dont know who could do it. About the second one, our wiki is too small yet, and if i understood correctly what you want, the only articles he wave about dogs, are Cão, and the links Boxer, Labrador and São Bernardo. Finally, i've just added right now the translation of thanks in portuguese (obrigado) to the wiktionary. Greetins from Sacavém, Portugal. Brian Boru 00:16, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Finnish Wikipedia

This is an answer to fi:Keskustelu käyttäjästä:Jean d'Arc, which is an answer to fi:Keskustelu luokasta:Koirat: I'm more interested in categorizing articles than writing about dogs. I considered moving the dog breed articles to their own subcategory, if you didn't understand my writing. -Hapsiainen 21:53, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC), who is the same person as Jean d'Arc in Finnish Wikipedia.

Please, don't put in my talk page any more links to projects and categories you found interesting. I already have plans what to do in Wikipedia. They often change, when I found something interesting or annoying. But you can't change them like that, and you shouldn't. By the way, I remember that visitors from German Wikipedia have already notified us of de:Wikipedia:WikiProjekt Nordeuropa in the Finnish Village Pump.

Still about Finnish dog categories. The Finnish Wikipedia haven't yet formed rules about categorization. It must form them, because people will become tired of current insconsistency between e.g. singular and plural. So expect some catagory names to change in future. -Hapsiainen 12:18, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] WikiCommons

I am posting it here, because I assume you'll look here more often than on your Dutch userpage. Regarding your questions on my Dutch userpage:

It is currently still necessary to cross-upload. There are plans to change that, and make it possible to use images that have been uploaded on Commons on other projects directly. I hope this will be available in MediaWiki 1.4 (the next version of the software, that seems to be close to beta release). - Andre Engels 08:28, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

There is no Category "dog breeds" in the Dutch Wikipedia. The dog breeds are in nl:Categorie:Hond, which corresponds to Category:Dogs. - Andre Engels 08:34, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Categorization

Hi, got your note but am not clear on your purpose. Are you talking about changing the category system? If so, then Wikipedia:Categorization is the place to ask about that. Stan 03:17, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] From The Dogfather

You wrote that you understand Spanish and Italian. Do you think you would be able to make a stub for Italian Greyhound?

Potrei provare a scrivere un articolo in italiano. Tuttavia, è una cosa a parlare un po di una lingua; altro a scrivere intelligentemente in uno.

Podría intentar escribir un artículo en español. Sin embargo, es una cosa para hablar un poco de una lengua; otros a escribir inteligente en uno.

Ich könnte versuchen, Artikel in andere Sprachen zu schreiben. Jedoch es ist eine Sache, ein bißen einer Sprache zu sprechen; andere, in eins intelligent zu schreiben.

If any of these translate well, let me know.The Dogfather 19:58, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Ich wille versuche mein bestes.The Dogfather 02:35, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Heimskringla & Egil @ sv:

I created a stub for Egil at sv:Egil Skallagrimsson and fixed the duplicate for sv:Heimskringla. Don't hesitate to ask if there's something else you'd like me to do. // OlofE 07:49, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Norse saga

I can not find a corresponding article on the Norwegian wikipedias to the article "Norse saga". A Norwegian term could be "Norrøn sagalitteratur", while most of them being "Islendingesaga", "Islendingesoge" or "Icelandic Saga". Gunnernett 12:25, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Egils saga

Sorry, I don't have any expertise in this area. I was only merging some duplicated page histories. While we're about it though - could you tell me if Egil's saga is a valid wikilink? Should the inverted comma be there?! - Ta bu shi da yu 14:25, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

P.S. I speak a few words on Mandarin, but overall I'm crap at other languages. Don't let the username fool you! - Ta bu shi da yu 14:26, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Béla Bartók in tr wiki

Hi. I don't think we have a Béla Bartók article in Turkish Wikipedia, so those links are superflous. cheers, at0 21:03, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] dogs and tree of life on Chinese wiki

Dogs aren't as common as pets in China as rest of the the world (esepecially the United States). Most city people live in cramped apartments that does not allow for dogs. I checked the articles, there aren't any about breeds of dogs.

粤菜 is about cantonese cooking, dispelliing the myth that dogs is a common dish (it's actually illegal in most Chinese areas). 犬科 is the lupine genus. Category:小作品 is stubs.

I'd be happy to help with the interwiki links for the tree of life project. Once in a while I go through the articles top down to add interwiki links and taxo boxes. Lately I've been busy working on categorization, as well as some other offline reporting, so I havne't done much lately. If you have any specific questions and doubts, please let me know.

Also please note that Chinese wiki uses one of the older taxonomy methods, especially around fish and birds. I don't know what the English name of those are, but the layering and divisions are often different from what I see in English and Japanese wiki until you get to the genus level.

I also operate one of the two m:interwiki bot zh:User:Vina-iwbot on Chinese wiki. Between me and the other person who has a bot, any links that you put onto other wiki should be picked up within a couple of weeks, so you don't need to add them manually here. Do you know if Latin wiki has an interwiki bot operator yet? I don't see one on the list. It's very useful if you have users actively adding interwiki links.

--Vina 06:18, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I'll add the three dog pages to the Chinese translation request page. If someone who knows dogs don't translate it, I'll try it in a week or two. --Vina 10:12, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] wikiproject dogs

While I'm not what I would call an "active" participant in the Wikiproject at the moment, I'm certainly interested. I'll go check out the questions. Sadly, English is the only language in which I have even a reasonable amount of fluency. :( I will be going to a very large dog show in February, and will be bringing my digital camera. I should be able to take pictures of 100 or so breeds, so that should be able to fill out a lot of our articles with pictures. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 07:41, Nov 2, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Sagokung

Dear Vigleif, I want to let you know about Användardiskussion:OlofE#Sagokung. When it is fixed I will tray to find some related pages from other Wikipedias.

It is intentional. The Swedish article sagokung corresponds to two articles in the English version.--Vigleif 6 november 2004 kl.00.29 (CET)

[edit] Re: Interwiki

Saluton Gangleri! Bedaŭrinde, mi ne parolas aŭ komprenas la germanan lingvon - mi preskaŭ tute forgesis ĝin ekde ni forlasis el germanio. Mi kontrolis viajn demandojn... Mi ne povas trovi hebrean artikolon por Juan Luís Vives, kaj ne ekzistas kategorio por Islando en la hebrea vikipedio. Tamen, se vi rigardas la kategorion por eŭropajn landojn, estas multaj da subkategorioj por aliaj landoj, do se vi povus krei kategorion por Islando se vi volus (tie). Espereble ĉi tiu estas helpema por vi! Nadavspi | talk 01:47, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Wikcinario Administrators

I got a request from you to make Pybalo and Lourdes Administrators on the Spanish Wiktionary. Checking, I see Pybalo is already an Administrator, and whereas Lourdes is not, there is one 'Lourdes Cardinal' Administrator. Is that the same person, or should I still be making Lourdes an Admin? - Andre Engels 12:59, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Oops, you're right... Regarding the bot: This specific bot is not one that I have used or worked upon, so I cannot say much about it. - Andre Engels 15:22, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
This specific bot is mostly the work of de:Benutzer:Head. Another good place to discuss it would be the pywikipediabot-mailing list (see http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=93107 ) - Andre Engels 15:34, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Dog race project

Gangleri, I believe you posted something about dogs on my swedish user page, and on others.

Yes, I think I may take part in a project about dog races, but presently I am involved in many things, so I can not garantee the volume, but I can give it a try. Its often fast to find me on my swedish user page. Ich bin geburtige schwede aber wohnen in Wien. Ehemalig stallmeister am Circus Krone in München. Dan Koehl 14:50, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Multiple Redirects

I don't think it is necessary to keep track of multiple redirects. The obvious way to deal with them is to edit all redirects to point to the real article, e.g. if A redirects to B & B redirects to C, you just have to edit A to redirect to C directly. I don't think there is any possibility of a better thing to do, at least with multiple redirects, per se. Under which title the article must finally be located is a different issue that could be settled in the talk pages/IRC/whatever but while that's being debated, doing the above is the right thing AFAICT. BTW just in case you agree with me, that page probably must be deleted. -- Paddu 18:42, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Why "Wikipedia:Multiple Redirects"? See Wikipedia talk:Multiple Redirects. Gangleri 23:00, 2004 Nov 10 (UTC)

[edit] m:User:Gangleri/remarks

Thanks Paddu for your comments. Regards Gangleri 23:25, 2004 Nov 10 (UTC)

[edit] aisl. / NOTOC

ahoi Gangleri. betreffend NOTOC / TOC habe ich ehrlich gesagt keine Meinung. Ich sehe, dass so ein ellenlanges Inhaltsverzeichnis nicht sehr ästhetisch ist (siehe hier für ein extremes Beispiel), andererseits ist das ein Problem, das systematisch gelöst werden sollte (und kann), und nicht mit Handarbeit an einzelnen Texten... Re isl. Diakritika, den Texten die ich hochgeladen habe, habe ich aus purer [[en:]]-Gewohnheit Diakritika-lose Titel gegeben, das kann man ohne weiteres ändern. Gruss, dab 08:25, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

vielen Dank :o) die Haken-O Diskussion interessiert mich besonders, weil ich mich gerade in weiterem Kontext mit Unicode-Fragen herumschlage, vgl. Talk:Zürich. Gruss, dab 14:27, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] On Norse Saga

On User talk:Dino, you note,

== Old Icelandic characters ==
* Dear Dino, I could see you as an editor of Norse Saga. Could you take a look at Talk:Norse saga#Characters "Ǫ" == >& # 4 9 0 ;< and "ǫ" == >& # 4 9 1 ;< and Wikipedia:Invalid article names. Thanks! [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri | T | Th]] 21:00, 2004 Nov 11 (UTC)

I wrote the original of Norse Saga, a long time ago, yes. However, on these matters I am totally out of my element. I know nothing of the aforementioned characters. For the American penchant of quoting the law (quoting the law is the last refuge of the scoundrel, and a beautiful way to pass the buck ...), is there a wikipedia policy on this stuff? Sorry I can't be more helpful.

dino 23:53, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Thank you very much for this valuable and informative input. Regards [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri | T | Th]] 05:10, 2004 Nov 12 (UTC)
I agree with Jallan, and was one of the three participants in the discussion. I have made some or most of the redirects you're talking about, and I'd like to add that there are several encodings around, and I think that it is an advantage if one article can be accessed by various redirects. Consequently, when I see a red link, which corresponds to an article I rather make it into a redirect than change the link itself.--Wiglaf 21:49, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Some responses

Hi. Sorry not to have responded sooner to any of your messages; I have to admit that the more I saw, the more I put off responding to even the simpler ones, but anyway...

[edit] About me

  • Note that although I am reasonably familiar with the source code - enough to direct myself or others to the right part of it, anyway - I would in no way consider myself one of the "core developers". In fact, my actual contributions to the code so far are few and trivial if any, although I like to think I've "contributed" in other ways. Just thought I ought to be clear on that, so that you don't get the impression a) that I wrote significant parts of the software and have intimate knowledge of it; or b) that I have access to the Wikimedia servers, or other rights that you don't have. I am just a user like you who has got to know the internals of the software a bit.
  • Nor do I have admin/sysop rights here, on meta:, or even on test:, so there's no point asking me to delete anything.

[edit] Bugzilla

  • It should be noted that, although someone has nicknamed the skin modification "MediaZilla", bugzilla is not developed by the same people as MediaWiki, but actually the same people as Mozilla (the open source browser). So, features like previews for comments (which I too would dearly like) are not likely to be implemented by anyone here, but need to be discussed with the developers of that software.
    • That said, the ability to make [[magic links]] to Wikipedia has been added on specifically for our install; I'm not sure who it was that implemented that, so I'm not sure who you'd need to talk to about any changes to/problems with its behaviour.
  • I have no more "rights" there than you do, so if you can't modify a comment, nor can I; I'm not aware that a feature for doing so exists, except in as much as one can usually hack databases directly, and hope for no nasty side effects.
  • It is possible to link to individual comments in a bug (and this, too, has nothing to do with the MediaWiki setup): if you click on the "#3" or whatever, you'll notice your browser is pointed to the anchor "#c3". So Bugzilla:144#c3 will do what you are after.

[edit] Templates and variables

  • The issue with including a template using {{{{ns:Foo}}:Bar}} does indeed seem to be a bug in the parser; the parser is, I may have mentioned before, a right mess internally, so I dread to think how such things work (or, indeed, don't;)). Nonetheless, I've filed Bugzilla:895, since it's clearly a genuine bug.
    • A way round this has just occurred to me, which is that "User:" is always a valid alternative name for the user namespace; so {{User:Gangleri}} will actually include your user-page on any project you visit!
  • I believe the thinking behind having {{PAGENAME}} etc refer to the page in which the template is included, is that this is basically the only reason you'd need to use them: to reference, in a template, the page the reader is actually looking at. Generally, templates aren't designed to be looked at in themselves, and moving and copying templates is probably rare enough that it's not much of an issue. While having some magic syntax would be nice, it makes the software that much more complex for rather a small gain. Since, when you're editing a template, you'll know what its title is, it's not that hard to just change that part of it when the template is moved or copied to a different title.
  • As for inclusion across multiple projects, yes, this would create some problems with localisations like this, but as far as I know, no such feature is even in the beginning of development, so I think we can put off worrying about which project {{ns:user}} translates according to until someone codes it.

[edit] Page parameters

  • As far as I know, there is no complete list of all the parameters that can be used in URLs for ordinary pages and special pages. This is because most of them are available through the interface, and so a bit of experimentation generally reveals how to use them. There are a few exceptions, like ...title=Foo&action=raw, but basically if you want to know how to do something by URL, do it manually and then look at the URL you get pointed at!
    • That said, a proper list could be useful, for instance for people writing bots, but I don't have to time to start it right now.
  • As for Special pages, each has its own peculiar parameters; there's no sense in which these are "allowed" on other special pages - you can visit http://en.wikipedia.org../../../w/h/a/Special%7EWhatlinkshere_6633.html if you really want to, but it won't do anything much. The fact that lots of special pages make use of a parameter called target should not imply that this is some kind of general parameter - it's just that it's the appropriate name for the paramater in each case. So ...title=Special:Watchlist&target=somebody is no more "accepted" than anything else, and does not offer a cheeky way to view someone else's watchlist; there is no feature for doing that.
    • The simplified links I used, like Special:Whatlinkshere/Foo, work for most Special: pages that have one obvious parameter: Whatlinkshere needs to have a page to look at the backlinks for, Allpages can be told where to begin the list, etc. It's just a convenient way of linking to the pages, and I think pre-dates the whole idea of things like {{localurl:}}. [Note, btw, that these aren't InterWiki links, they're just ordinary internal ones, with the parameter pretending to be a sub-page, just like User:IMSoP/Gangleri.]
    • The {{localurl:}} syntax can be made to refer to any page, with any extra parameters; all it is, is a convenient and portable way of creating a full URL pointing at the page (I think it was probably created so that parts of the interface could make use of it, and work on a new install without tweaking). So in terms of "when to use it", the answer is "whenever you like" (everywhere except where it's possible, and would be easier, to use the "sub-page" shortcut I just mentioned, I guess; or, where it would be easier to just to copy-and-paste the actual URL!)

Well, that's dealt with some of your comments and questions anyway; I've got other things to do now, so I'd better stop there, but I hope this has been helpful so far. - IMSoP 14:42, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)


[edit] Runen/Reenactment

  • die Zeichen die du nicht darstellen kannst: die meisten davon sind Codepage 1E00 (Latin Extended Additional), insbes. 'underdots'. mit Firefox auf KD 3.2 werden sie dargestellt, aber mir ist bewusst das aeltere Systeme sie nicht darstellen. Das wird sich aber von selber loesen. Ich schaetze dass in einem Jahr oder so praktisch alle Browser in Gebrauch diese Zeichen rendern.
  • Deine Unicode-Runen werden bei mir auch korrekt dargestellt. Leider aber noch nicht das Gotische Alphabet.
  • Reenactment: Nicht direkt. Ich wuesste schon etwas genauer, wie ein "Wikinger" auszusehen hat. Das ganze ging eher in Richtung fantastischer Klamauk [2].

Gruss, dab 11:16, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Old Norse redirects "using" UTF-8

Could you please respond to the question about these at Talk:Norse saga? Thanks. Noel (talk) 18:19, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Valaskjalf

  • Homepage geändert. ᚠᚡᚢ Gruß Stilgard T 19:18, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Bela Bartok

I cut and pasted the Wiktionary article to "Béla Bartók". Thanks! Hyacinth 21:55, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Entschuldigung

Ich bitte um Verzeihung, daß ich Dir Deine Fragen und Bitten so lange nicht beantwortet habe. Ich war im Herbst lange krank und habe mich mit Wikipedia seit langem nicht mehr beschäftigt. Es ging mir um die Erholung und Arbeit. Ich weiß nicht, ob ich in den kommenden Monaten Zeit dafür haben werde. Aber vergessen bist Du nicht, mein Freund. Was Deine Übersetzungs- bzw. Korrekturlesenbitte muß ich für diesmal absagen. Ich bin zu beschäftigt mich körperlich zu erholen und die Arbeit nachzuholen.

Laß das aber Dich nicht davon abzuhalten Dich zu melden, wenn Du möchtest. Dein Io 18:47, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Old Norse Names

I have reworked the names of the poems in Poetic Edda, formerly Elder Edda, to fit with the conventions tentatively established at Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Old_Norse/Old_Icelandic/Old_English) and am informing those who have commented on such things in the past. I hope what I have done pleases you. I intend increasingly to go through with standardizing names as indicated, unless there really are objections. It is time the mess was cleaned up, following some convention or other. Please reply at Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Old_Norse/Old_Icelandic/Old_English) if you have any feelings on the matter, especially if they are negative. I don't have any great preference, but want to get something started to clear up the maze of redirects and strange spellings that currently afflict the Norse mythology articles. (Actually, many of them aren't strange, it is just that they don't agree with one another.) Jallan 04:36, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Slovak towns

Hi, you left a message on my talk page. Thank you for interwiki linking and categorizing Slovak towns. But it si not necessary to announce such non-controversial changes on people's talk pages. By the way, the link from Category:Towns in Slovakia to its Romanian counterpart does not seem to work (at least in my browser). Probably some problem with international charcters. Good luck Brona 17:06, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)

  • You wanted some data in CSV format about Slovak towns. I do not know about any. When I create infoboxes, I use data from [3]. This table has columns: (1) town (2) population at the end of 2002, (3) area, (4) population density, (5) altitude, (6) first written record of the town. There is also a table of all towns arranged by regions and districts here [4]. I guess those tables can be downloaded and converted to CSV. Let me know if you want help with that. Or let me know what other data you want, I may try to find them. I willing to help you with this project. Regards Brona 03:44, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Hello again. You ask whether Slovakia has some abreviation for each kraj and okres? The only such thing I now of are Slovak car registration plates - a two-letter code for each okres (district). They are occasionaly used in other contexts as well, not only on cars. Brona 16:09, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] grinbot @ huwiki

Hello Gangleri!

I did not really got your question about GrinBot. What do you want to know? What should I write about and where?

GrinBot is a pywikipediabot, common around all wikipedias, like user:hasharbot, user:robbot and Andre Engels' bot I don't seem to recall. If you want to know more, see http://pywikipediabot.sf.net/ . If you wanted to ask something from GrinBot to do, then just tell me ;)

Best wishes, --grin ✎ 19:07, 2005 Jan 25 (UTC)

You asked:

  • At IRC you mentioned somethink about 1.000 links between hu: and ro:. I could see the activities from other bots in the past. What I did not ask you is:
  • are these 1.000 links are just between hu: and ro:? or
  • do you take care also about informations from other Wikipedias as a "relay"?
  • Do you generate reports? If yes where? Do they include s status "succes" / "problems" (as differences between linterlanguage links; multiple interlanguage links etc)?
  • I am also active at eo:. Could you please let me know also about the number of missing interlanguage links between hu: and eo:?

replies:

  • these missing links consist of any wikipedia linking to a ro article which does not link back to it. it may or may be more or less, because the logfile was not rotated and it's possible that grinbot ran more than once since then :)
  • bot works like gets links from a starting point (in my case that is one hungarian article), get all the links, then get all the links from the linked pages, and so on, until there is no more new ones. after that it sorts the results, and if there is no conflict then it updates the hungarian page with the new links found all around wikipedia, and records missing links on other wikipedias in my logfile, which could be used as a base for starting on any other wikipedia (like ro).
  • I do not publish reports, but I can naturally give you my logfile, which can be converted to a report by basic unix tools like grep and sort. it includes lots of useful and useless informations.
  • missing links from eo to hu are around 3500, if my logs are correct.

I re-run a full update on huwiki and this result a fresh log. Probably done in 2-3 days. Check back on me. --grin ✎ 00:42, 2005 Jan 27 (UTC)

Well, I didn't succeed to move the required stuff to my other machine (which is on 24h a day) so when I go to sleep I have to stop the bot. :) It'l finish eventually, and I progress to move the bot to the other machine anyway. Stay tuned. :)

About the Bot page: no, we don't (yet) have such a page. We have category voting page which may result a request to move a category, but other things aren't well documented right now (mostly due to lack of time). The idea is good, but I have to find some time to get it done. --grin ✎ 21:54, 2005 Jan 28 (UTC)

Hello Utilizátor Gangleri, GrinBot finished Oraşe din Brazilia. :) Seeya, --grin ✎ 11:32, 2005 Jan 31 (UTC)

[edit] response from cough

Hi, now I understand why you have a question about zh: category names. Actually it is no secret. Now all interwiki linking to zh.wikipedia use zh: with NO exception.

There is a story about why we have zh-ch: and zh-tw: variants. At the very beginning of zh.wikipedia, there were only people from Mainland China engaging zh.wikipedia, therefore zh.wikipedia was written by simplified Chinese (SC) at the time. When peope from Hong Kong and Taiwan, who used traditional Chinese (TC) as writing language, came to participate in zh.wikipedia, they found some difficulties in reading articles and communicating with SC users. Somebody then went to apply for a new TC zh.wikipedia, and s/he got what s/he wanted (anecdotically that person is not even a Chinese user)! So the initial SC zh.wikipedia had the link name as zh-cn:, and the new TC zh.wikipedia had zh-tw:. However, some people strongly argued that SC and TC are actually one single language, with differences only in mutually comprehensible writing forms and a few idioms. SC and TC can be mutually converted by computer program, and they thought it is better to develop such a program instead of to divide SC and TC into two wikipedias, scattering resources. As a result, SC zh.wikipedia and TC zh.wikipedia were merged together again. zh-cn: and zh-tw: you now see at times are the remains from that period. Now the SC-TC conversion program has been employed, so there is no need to use zh-cn: and zh-tw: anymore.

I hope my answer can suffice your question. Cheers.--Cough Talk 23:42, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Xanana Gusmão

Thank you for your message. I don't know exactly what you mean but I'll help the best I can ;-) So you are an ethnic German from Romania? How interesting! I thought you were a Portuguese or a Brazilian :-) Well I heard there were between 500.000 to 2.000.000 million of them in Transsylvania is that true? Wel c u later! Meursault2004 14:21, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply and info about the Germans in Romania. Well now I do understand more what you meant. Of course I shall help in your endevaour to make better interwikis, as a matter of fact I am an administrator on the Indonesian Wikipedia. But I will be on wikibreak for a few weeks so I'll check about this when I return. You know I think you are right, good interwikis are about making good standard titles and making good disambiguation pages. Bye Meursault2004 14:34, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)
We have updated the interwiki link on the Indonesian Administrators page. We have protected the page as we suffered from vandalism. Cheers! Meursault2004 15:05, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Edvard Beneš

English language Wikipedia uses ISO-8859-1 as its underlying charset, so non-ISO-8859-1 characters, such as š, can't be used in article titles. When it is converted to UTF-8 (as it is the case with every other Wikimedia project), this limitation will disappear.

In the case of š, it may actually appear correctly in some language versions of Internet Explorer (and other browsers that attempt to be bug-to-bug compatible with IE, like Opera or Mozilla), since they interpret illegal character codes as belonging to CP-1252 character set. This behaviour is, however, non-standard and, obviously, should not be relied upon. -- Naive cynic 10:22, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Romanian geography stubs

Hi Ganglieri -

It looks like you're going through a few Romanian geography articles at the moment... could I ask you to help out by changing any {{stub}} templates on the files you do to {{romania-geo-stub}}? It'd save a little work at the Stubsorting WikiProject, and make it easier to find the stubs for future editors. Many thanks! Grutness|hello? 08:49, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Your wrote: Is there any template to insert as link about missing diacritics?
Sorry, but I don't know of one. The nearest one to that I know is the "Wrongtitle" one which is already at the top of Alesd. Grutness|hello? 09:44, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Please give me a hand

  • Halló Ganglieri - you wrote: I realized that you are a administrator at [[:en:]]. I do not have the time to read all the rules here and would be happy if you could help me
  1. regarding the "stealth" templates Template:Interwikiconflict see Wikipedia:Template:Interwikiconflict and Template:Invalidtitle see Wikipedia:Template:Invalidtitle. I do not expect oposition but my personal opinion is that not everybody should work on this subjects.
To be honest, I don't know what the rules would be on this one. I've been an administrator for less than a month, and have never had any interwiki dealings. I've never come across a "steAlth template" before either. So I really don't know whether these will be acceptable or not. Sorry!
  1. regarding some disambiguations I added at some discussion pages.
Well, I'm not really in favour of disambiguations being on talk pages, myself. The best thing would probably be simply to create the disambiguation page - see how I've edited Colentina, making links to three pages yet to be made. If you think it would be better, those links can be removed and more information can be put on the Colentina page.
Oh, and you might like to see the reply I wrote to your "Slovakia-geo-stub" comment at Wikipedia talk:Template messages/Stubs/By region Grutness|hello? 05:42, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] National sort order

Hello, this is already in the bugzilla for a long long long time: bugzilla:164. --grin ✎ 11:11, 2005 Mar 7 (UTC)

[edit] Gangleri (olika betydelser)

Hi Gangleri! I've translated your disambig page to Swedish. Have a look at it: w:sv:Gangleri (olika betydelser).
/ Mats Halldin 11:08, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] disambiguation compass

You're welcome. I just hope that the trident metaphor weren't the outcome of a long discussion... Ciao. :o) Paginazero

[edit] Template:CatAZ

You recently inserted the tag CatAZ into a large category. If you have the time and inclination, I would be grateful if you could visit the talk page Template talk:CatAZ and say which of two version you prefer: with a shaded box and the word Contents, or without the box and the word. --Henrygb 20:30, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki ¿updated?

Why have you deleted eu:Wikipedia:Txoko link at spanish es:Wikipedia:Café? Guillermo 13:01, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ok, another user moved the page months ago. Moved to eu:Wikipedia:Txokoa and protected from moves. Guillermo 14:25, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Mi aprecas ke vi aprecas miajn malgrandegajn redaktojn en eo:. :-D Mi ankoraŭ lernadas kaj pli kontribuos poste. --cprompt 03:54, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Turkic alfabet

Hallo Gangleri, Image:Turkic_alfabet.png uploaded to commons

[edit] Dog breeds

I'm happy to help with this project. I just hope other people like the changes as well.

[edit] Dog breeds

I'm happy to help with this project. I just hope other people like the changes as well.

[edit] ro:Mihai Eminescu, etc.


[edit] pt:Predefinição:CategoryTOC

Thank you, but we already have pt:Predefinição:Índice cat. If you need anything else, plesa, let me know. pt:User:E2m

[edit] Einangsteinen

hm, ok. Das grosse Bild bestaetigt, dass die anderen unabsichtlich gespiegelt wurden -- case closed. Ich habe die Inschrift nun aus deinen zwei Bildern zusammengeflickt, aber wenn du irgend ein anderes Bild einer Alten Futhark Inschrift hast, wuerde sich das wohl besser machen, auf Elder Futhark. Danke & Gruss, dab (ᛏ) 12:03, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hello from Estonia

Hallo, Gangleri!

Ich habe Deutch gelernt, aber ich habe alle vergessen. Ich verstehe etwas, aber ich schreibe nicht. Therefore I write better in English.

I'm glad, that You liked the translation into Estonian. Actually, when I readed you homepage, I started to feel, that you are good inside. And sometimes in such situations I want to make something good for them also.

I found some mistakes also. First sentence: "My name is... ": "Minu nimi on..." (not mini). In middle of text word 'and' must be translated: 'ja'. And word 'homage' is not Estonian. It's 'austus', but I'm not sure, that it's proper place for that word under Vina. Maybe 'kodu' ('home') or 'islandi lambakoer' or 'minu koer' ('my dog') or 'minu hobi' or simply 'Vina' or empty string?

You created a new artikle "Berlin": #REDIRECT Berliin. When I saw that, then I was surprized: Gangleri starts an article in Estonian about Irving Berlin! No, of course, that was city ... But it is not written in Estonian that way. It's like I would create in Deutch an article "Eesti": #REDIRECT Estland. Nobody deleted it, but it's somehow strange.

Article et:Vikipeedia is now correct. When I saw your letter, then our bureaucrat had fixed it. et:Kasutaja:Taivo


Please see Wikipedia talk:Template:Interwikiconflict af:Gebruiker:Jcwf Please see User talk:GangleriBot/InterWiki/ambiguities 01 af:Gebruiker:Jcwf

[edit] Hello from Commons

Hi Gangleri
Sorry, but I can't do that at this time.
Cheers, Get It 23:31, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Template_talk:Wrongtitle#Overuse_of_the_template -=SV|t|c] 00:59, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] template Nowcommons

I only intended it to put it in a more convinient location, where it may stay longer and bookmarking it might make more sense. that cyrillic went away was not intended and thus was a bad side effect.

I do not know what you mean by "Please contentrate on own activities in the future." I thought I was on a open access wiki called commons. If more people tell me things like that, I think I will leave wikimedia and really do my own activity. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 17:30, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] pt:template:lixo

Pt.wp differs in many aspects from other wikipedias. We, pt.wp, do not delete articles that have a good title. We are a small wikipedia, then it is usual to have a lot of red links. Those pages help us to find which area and subjects are missing from our wikipedia. We also have pt:template:impróprio. Lixo is used when somebody creates an article with clear nonsense. Impróprio is used when somebody creates an article with content that cannot be used in any wikimedia project (but it is not a copyvio). And we also have our templates for "movedic" and "movebooks", but articles do not get deleted in the end of the process. Pt.wp used to be an inclusionist and eventualist redoubt, but nowadays, it is getting bigger, and new users tend to be deletionists. But there is hope, since we have shown that we can convert even hard deletionists. Bye! --E2m 21:33, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It is OK to interwiki with "lixo" pages. Our lixo pages already have interwikis. -E2m 22:12, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

And that image is not good. Let we see what other users will talk about. --E2m 22:17, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wodan/Odin

You put a message at my talk page at nl about this. I answered on Wikipedia:Template:Interwikiconflict. Ellywa 18:28, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My bot, oh my bot

Thank you for categorizing my bot. (Ne-am intersectat si aici :) Oleg Alexandrov 04:50, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Page moved on Friulian Wikipedia

Hi, the moving it's ok but the new title it's not correct, it should be fur:Vichipedie:Liste dai articui che dutis lis vichipedîs a varessin di vê since we don't use standard Wikipedia: service pages; therefore I'm moving it to the new address. --Klenje 09:35, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC) It's moved now to the correct name, bye --Klenje 09:57, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Australian Aboriginal Flag

Hi Gangleri. Followed you over from ga.wiki - thanks for your contributions there.

The reason that I'm posting here, is to enquire about the Australian Aboriginal Flag that you've got on your main user page. What's the reason or meaning behind it?

Regards, Lankiveil 12:19, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC).

[edit] about GlobalWPSearch

Hallo! Gangleri, I tried GlobalWPSearch. The problem is it only use latin alphabet which would be no usage for Chinese or other differnt letter wikis. And it only search English word or only one laguage word i.e. "goldfish" search result is only en wiki. Better improve it including all links. --Fanghong 08:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Icelandic Sheepdog in national languages

...is now listed under vfd, FYI. Elf | Talk 05:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] interwiki sorting

Hi Gangleri! Could you please, give reason why you reordering interwiki links same time when adding other interwiki links? (recently here) It's custom in Estonian wiki to use languages in order of their name in their language not in order of language code.

I saw you have made commons:User:Gangleri/sandbox/Template:Interwiki guidelines page and claiming there that Estonian Wikipedia is "Ordered by language code:" along with other Wikis, from which in my experience many use instead sorted by the language names. It wouldn't "harm" to add referencies based on which you claim it. --TarmoK 15:40, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for updating the Ynterwiki on fy:Wiki:Recentchanges. However, there's no reason for apologising for sorting by languagecode, as that's indeed how we sort ynterwiki. On the other hand, such an apology does not allow you to politic with your contributions. If you have problems with the way the contributors to the Frisian Wikipedia structure that Wikipedia, then you can come and discuss that with them. If you won't do that, then accept that structure as it is. Aliter 22:29, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tartaria amulet

I moved it to Commons, though had no time to tell you about it until now. Nikola 02:56, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] about the link

Hi Gangleri, I've fixed the broken zh: links. Glad to be helpful. Regards.: )--Cough Talk 18:29, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Icelandic sheepdogs

Hi. Per your request, I have moved this article to your userspace at User:Gangleri/sandbox/Icelandic Sheepdog in national languages. Smoddy (Rabbit and pork) 18:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Javanese Wikipedia

Hey I just sorted out the main page of the Javanese wikipedia. Please tell me what you think of it :-) Meursault2004 19:14, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Interwikibot on Tamil Wikipedia

Hi Gangleri, I'm downloading an ICQ client and'll catch you later. If you had a Yahoo! account, you can ping me at sundarbecse. -- Sundar (talk • contribs) 09:50, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki links: any discussion?

Hi! On matijap's user talk page you mentioned that some months ago you had started to get information about where to insert and how to sort interlanguage links. I strongly support your proposal to create a common repository for interlanguage links and am wondering whether there has been any discussion. Thanks for your reply! --Eleassar777 18:21, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template Todo and Template Task

Hi, you left me a short msg on my italian user page about 2-3 wks ago, suggesting to have a look at your reimplementation of the Todo template, that allows portability and adds interesting features.

WOW! I finally had time to have a look and found it really interesting, even if I didn't understand everything, a little because your page [7] was really confusing for me (it didn't help the mix with finnish :-) ). Could you explain me how you implemented it (a sort of "Template:Task guide for Newbies" ;-) ) ? And could we do the same here in Wikipedia and eventually in the other language Wikipedias where a similar template exists (like German, Italian, French)? Answer me here please. Ggonnell 16:36, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I will write later the answer to your msg... here I just wanted to remember you that there is a template:Todo also in is.wiki (islandic) at http://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sni%C3%B0:G%C3%A1tlisti --Ggonnell 20:45, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] bugzilla:1394

bugzilla:1394 – Request for feature - what-links-here on commons not useful

  1. Image:Himalaya annotated.jpg – Special:Whatlinkshere/Image:Himalaya annotated.jpg
  2. Image:Himalaya composite.jpg – Special:Whatlinkshere/Image:Himalaya composite.jpg
  3. Image:Himalayas.jpg – Special:Whatlinkshere/Image:Himalayas.jpg

Gangleri | Th | T 13:42, 2005 Jun 16 (UTC)

[edit] User Interface Language

Hi Gangleri,

Angela told me that you are the best person to advise me on how to let users change their interface language without having to log in.

I looked at http://www.wikipage.de/en/index.php/Main_Page and I like what you have done.

Could you help me make a similar system at Yellowikis? ( http://www.yellowikis.org/ )

I am paul@yellowikis.org

Halló Paul! Unfortunatelly I have no imediate answer to your question "how to let users change their interface language without having to log in". See bugzilla:0057#c21 bug 57#c21 (http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57#c21). You may experiment with user rights in version 1.5. Please let me know if you get it running. Now I am mainly involved in "portability". If you would like to copy and paste hundreds of templates we could make a Spanish or Catalan version at "WikiPage". Best regards Gangleri 13:02, 28 Jun 2005 (BST)
So how does it work on Wikipage? If I click on the Esperanto link the content of the page _and_ the language of the user interface changes to Esperanto. Same with German, Romanian and the other languages.
"WikiPage" consists at the moment of 6 wiki's. bug 57#c21: "At the moment "anonymous users" will use always the "content language"." This is "coincidence" and may change if a feature "use same configuration for all sessions across multiple wiki's" would be implemented (as a request or as an "erroneous" implementation). The sessions are identified by cookies; I assume different cookies for each wiki (at the moment).
The wiki's do not have "identical" content. Only the templates are 85% identical.
If you log in (please do so) you are able to use only one language. I do not like this and bugzilla:0057#c21 describes this. Regards Gangleri | Th | T June 29, 2005 18:07 (UTC)

[edit] Dobermann/Temp

...is now at Wikipedia:WikiProject Dog breeds/TemplateTesting. 64.173.8.182 29 June 2005 22:30 (UTC) (Elf)

[edit] ==Ta bu shi da yu==

Look in the history, go this section from the edit history. - Ta bu shi da yu 23:36, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

OK, so NOW try :-) Ta bu shi da yu 23:37, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
P.S. It will take you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gangleri#.3D.3DUser:Ta_bu_shi_da_yu.7CTa_bu_shi_da_yu.3D.3D Ta bu shi da yu 23:38, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ¿Can you help me?

Hi. I'm rsg, from the Asturian Wikipedia. I have talk to you before about to rename the namespaces of that wiki. ¿How can I do it? I have translated most of the ast:Special:Allmessages, but I want to translate ast:Template:Wikivar. Thanks. --rsg (talk) 17:08, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer. Here is the translation. I still don't know what I have to do. ¿Do I have to upload it to somewhere? I have noticed that m:LanguageAst.php doesn't exists, but I don't know exactly what I should put in there. Thanks a lot for your patience. --rsg (talk) 19:41, 23 July 2005 (UTC) PS: If you prefer, you can respond me here, at en:

In the name of all asturian user: A lot of thanks!!! --rsg (talk) 14:38, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] yi:MediaWiki:Preferences

hello

Can you explain me the best way for updating translation into any languages. Do you suggest me to contact ""sysop's"" before doing any changes ? thanks in advance.Regards Pok148 17:46 CEST

[edit] Birthday

Happy Birthday!

Here's a tasty Birthday cake. Best wishes to you! Hope you enjoy your day. Now, get on out there and have some fun! ;)

--Jen Moakler 01:20, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Um... Thank you! :) --Jen Moakler 04:43, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Romania

Please review my comment on the above page. KissL 10:29, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

While waiting for the creation of the Old Norse Wikipedia, I would like as much people as possible to come on this page to dicuss the "neologisms" we should use on it. Please take a look. Yours sincerly. 82.235.122.163 09:53, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

P.S. : As you have many usernames, I've sent this message to most of them.

[edit] Old Norse Wikipedia

While waiting for the creation of the Old Norse Wikipedia, I would like as much people as possible to come on this page to dicuss the "neologisms" we should use on it. Please take a look. Yours sincerly. 82.235.122.163 09:53, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

P.S. : As you have many usernames, I've sent this message to most of them.

[edit] Old Norse Wikipedia (2)

As you are a supporter of the Old Norse Wikipedia, I would like you to help translating the pages ( and contribute ) on the test wikipedia for old norse : meta:test-wp/non/ -- Sajasaze 17:12, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wiktionary

Salut Reinhardt, îţi răspund la cele două întrebări pe care mi le-ai pus prin email:

1. Despre majuscule/minuscule pe ro.wiktionary: Nu am experienţă aproape deloc cu Wiktionary, deci nu pot să dau un răspuns prea în temă, dar din ce ştiu, cel puţin fr.wiktionary e case-sensitive numai dacă în dicţionar există două forme care diferă doar prin case, ca de exemplu roumain şi Roumain. Dar dacă în baza de date e o singură formă atunci oricum ai scrie cuvîntul ajungi la aceeaşi definiţie, de exemplu maison şi Maison duc în acelaşi loc.

Limba română are norocul că nu scrie nici un cuvînt cu majusculă dacă nu e nume de ceva. Englezii, francezii, nemţii au alte reguli, după cum bine ştii: on Friday, un Americain, der Mensch. Deci cred că pe ro.wiktionary se poate merge liniştit pe case-insensitive. Dacă se întîmplă vreodată să existe două cuvinte care să difere numai prin case putem da foarte bine cele două definiţii în acelaşi articol, ca şi două înţelesuri diferite.

2. Despre forma articulată sau nearticulată răspunsul e clar: orice dicţionar de limba română preferă forma fără articol. Explicaţia e simplă: cînd spui "omul" spui de fapt două cuvinte, contopite: substantiv + articol hotărît. Sper să-ţi fi fost de ajutor. --AdiJapan 13:02, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hey, thanks for patronizing User:Melchoir/Random links proposal! Just out of curiosity, may I ask how you found it? Melchoir 20:57, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sergiu Nicolaescu

Hi. I left a message on the Sergiu Nicolaescu talk page. Maybe you are interested. If not, sorry. - AdamSmithee 10:20, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gracias

Hi, thanks for the congratulations. Well actually I'm not a translator or anything alike, I'm just too lazy to get the information by myself :) I traslated the article with a programm: Internostrum. It makes a great job and you just have to go over the translated text and correct a few things. We have been translating the most interesting catalan articles that way: es:Wikiproyecto:Traducciones Cercanas. Cheers, es:Usuario:Ecelan 84.56.137.22 03:40, 10 December 2005 (UTC) P.S. Sorry if I'm not very coherent, I've drunk too much tea and cannot sleep in spite of being veerrryyy tired

[edit] Aboriginal flag

The Australian Aboriginal flag is copyright and the use of the image other than on articles discussing the flag or the designer is not within the Wikipedia:Fair use guidelines. The image's page is tagged as fair use but I appreciate it is a relatively recent tagging. I apologise for messing with your user space but the images had persisted even though there had been quite some discussion on the subject, which of course you may not have been aware of if you were not folowing the article on the page or the image page discussion. Regards--A Y Arktos 19:51, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Gangleri, Welcome to ml.wikies! --Viswaprabha 01:11, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Wikivar

What is this good for? Can you explain it on: Hilfe:Ich_brauche_Hilfe#Vorlage_Diskussion:Wikivar greetings --Wolf-Dieter 18:09, 10 January 2006 (UTC) (Wolf-Dieter from German Wikinews)

[edit] protecting n:template:DIRMARK

Why? Bawolff 23:01, 14 January 2006 (UTC) (please respond at n:user talk:bawolff Bawolff 23:01, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Romanien

[edit] Moldovan wikipedia and wiktionary

Hello Reinhardt,

I've seen your post on bugzilla on the topic of the Moldovan wikipedia and wiktionary. What would you suggest? Is bugzilla the good place to request deletion, or should we go to meta.wiki?

Yours, Dpotop 16:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Babel Templates

You may wish to have input here 70.48.206.160 15:53, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "‎װיקיביבליאָטעק‎‎"‎

Shkoyach, und a gute voch to you as well :) - the.crazy.russian (T) (C) (E) 00:55, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shalom aleichem Gangleri

Serwus, Sadly I don't have time right now. Could maybe help you in the future. Regards

[edit] Logo of Sindhi Wikipedia

I have uploaded Sindhi version of Wikipedi logo in both, JPG and PNG format. How can it be switched? I mean how to make it appear on the Sindhi Wiki pages? 193.52.94.1 16:09, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MK Wikipedia on bugzilla

Hey reinhardt, you responded to my bug at [bugzilla] about two weeks ago, but still no changes were made... Could you look up into the issue, I'd really like to get it off my shoulders. --Misos 09:23, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I have protected it

Dear Gangleri, Good day. I've proteted the logo at Sindhi Wikipedia. But how to switch it on? Aursani 17:52, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logo of Sindhi Wikipeida

Dear friend, thanks for switching the Sindhi logo ON, but it doesn't appear correctly. It is partly cut! I have loaded another file after making it a little shorter. How to make the chage appear? Aursani 22:34, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikivar

It would have been much more appropriate if you consulted with the community or at least some of the administrators at Bosnian Wikipedia before you added Wikivar [8] . It has caused much confusion and missunderstanding at our Wikipedia as some terms do not match some of the standards that we have agreed to use. Could please let me know where and how can we edit this interface. Thank You.--Dado 21:43, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dual (grammatical number)

Hi! I've seen you have been posting feature requests to Bugzilla to better localise the MediaWiki software. As I do not know where and how to post the following, I hope perhaps you would know how to do it properly.

The various variables and Mediawiki messages should allow also for duality as it is used in Slovenian language.

Slovenian language has three grammmatical numbers (singular, dual, plural). These are obligatory for nouns, verbs, pronouns, adjectives. We form them by adding different suffixes to words.
Currently it is possible to use only one sentence form for numbers in e.g. Mediawiki:Sitestatstext and other system messages. It would be great if the software would allow for entering at least up to five forms that would be displayed depending on the number generated e.g. by the variable NUMBEROFFILES or any other such variable or $n that generates a number.
Five different forms would be needed because of the peculiarities of Slovenian counting system:
  • 1 + nominative singular form (datoteka)
  • 2 + nom. dual form (datoteki)
  • 3 / 4 + nom. plural (datoteke)
  • 5, 6, 7 till (including) 100 + genitive plural (datotek)
  • At every 100 items, this sequence starts anew.
So for the given example (number of files on Special:Statistics) the system should display:
  • "je naložena 1 datoteka" (for 1 file; the number generated by NUMBEROFFILES equals 1)
  • "sta naloženi 2 datoteki" (for 2 files; the number generated by NUMBEROFFILES equals 2)
  • "so naložene 3 / 4 datoteke" (for 3 or 4 files, --)
  • "je naloženih 5 / 6 / 7 datotek" (for 5 or more files till and including 100)
  • At every 100 items this sequence should repeat itself. So for 101 it should be again: "je naložena 101 datoteka" as the first form above; etc.
Hereby I should also say that this counting pattern does not apply in all cases. In some cases genitive is not used so there are only three or even only two sentence forms. Therefore, it should be optional whether to enter two, three, five or any other number of forms.

I'm posting this here to inform you - as you seem to be working much on interwiki collaboration and localization of Mediawiki - and to kindly ask you to post this where and as you seem fitable. Thanks very much! --Eleassar my talk 17:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

P.S.: If you wish to communicate to Slovenian Wikipedia something about Mediawiki, probably it's better to contact me (sl:User:Eleassar) or perhaps sl:User:Matijap (he's more knowledgeable than I am, I suppose) instead of Klemen, as Klemen is not editing the user interface much but we are (especially me). --Eleassar my talk 10:38, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The first change I would like to make

The first thing that I would like to change is the name of Sindhi language as it appears in Wikiprojects. It should appear سنڌي rather than what it appears now. I think one needs to make the relavant change in LanguageSd.php file. It might be changed to as follows:

<?php /** Sindhi language file ( سنڌي )

 *
 * @package MediaWiki
 * @subpackage Language
 */

require_once( 'LanguageUtf8.php' );

class LanguageSd extends LanguageUtf8 { #FIXME: inherit almost everything for now

function isRTL() { return true; } }

?>

How to make such a change take place? In fact I find things very difficult. Aursani 19:24, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First I would like to change ....

Dear friend, First I would like to change the way name of Sindhi language appears in Wiki projects. It must appear as سنڌي instead of what it appears today. I think it can be done by changing the php file as under. Kindly guide me do this. For me, things are very difficult. Aursani 19:54, 10 May 2006 (UTC) <?php /** Sindhi language file ( سنڌي )

 *
 * @package MediaWiki
 * @subpackage Language
 */

require_once( 'LanguageUtf8.php' );

class LanguageSd extends LanguageUtf8 { #FIXME: inherit almost everything for now

function isRTL() { return true; } }

?>

[edit] RE [Mediawiki-i18n] Internationalisation news] on GD wiki

If you want to get in touch with User:Derek Ross its best to do so on his english Wiki account as he very,very rarely works on the Gaelic one. Im not sure if Ailean MacRaith is active on the english wiki but he certainly isnt on the Gaelic one nor has he been at any point of my tenure. siarach 07:56, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Limburgian localization

You asked me on IRC to have a look at MediaWiki localization for li: . I noticed that quite a lot of messages are already translated on li.wikipedia.org ; I assume it is okay to use their translations? Of course, I'll check that they are really translations of the corresponding messages in MessagesEn.php . Is there any information available on exactly what I should do? I only found m:MediaWiki localization which basically says to submit a patch for MessagesLi.php to Bugzilla; I guess that's all I need to know but please tell me if there are any further requirements. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 03:45, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Latin Wikibooks

Hi, I'm Dbmag9.

I see that you have an account on Wikibooks in Latin. I have recently been made an administrator there until the 31 July, and I'm trying to make the project into something useful. If you have time/motivation, please go there, and try to make a useful contribution. Any questions/comments/replies can be made on my talk page.

Thank you! -b:la:Usor:Dbmag9


Thank you for your quick reply. However, I do not understand the wiki you sent me to. What is it for? What do you want me to do to it? Daniel (‽) 15:59, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] af-wikti

Lieber Gangleri, ich werde mir diese IRC-möglichkeit installieren und dich kontaktieren. Aber erst morgen oder übermorgen. Hoffe, das ist ok für dich! Lg Manie --84.114.144.54 07:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Mit "fertig" meinst du, dass alle special messages übersetzt wurden (in pms, sk)? Das problem ist, dass da bereiche berührt werden, wo ich die fachauasdrücke noch nicht kenne. Ich werde mein bestes versuchen though. Habe das mit dem zeitlimit gelesen. melde mich morgen oder übermorgen im chat bei dir. Lg --84.114.144.54 09:41, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] #hu.wikipedia

About your question: irc.freenode.net and chat.freenode.net are servers of the same network, you will end up in the same chatroom, no matter which you use. If you meant to say #hu.wikipedia versus #wikipedia-hu, both Wikipedia:IRC channels and m:IRC channel renaming use the latter form.

Anyway, the hungarian channel hasn't been used for months. Community too small, i suppose. --Tgr 12:34, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ro.wikt

Bună! O rugăminte mică am. Am vrut să adaug 2 spaţii de nume noi la ro.wikt, dar la Bugzilla mi s-a cerut sondaj. Aşa că am făcut o propunere, ro:wikt:Wiktionary:Evenimente curente. Pentru că şi aşa comunitate nu prea există, am pus ca sondajul să dureze 3 zile. Vrei să participi şi tu, dacă ai 2 minute? Merci mult! — KlaudiuMihăilă Message 18:07, 2 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Happy Birthday!

The Wikipedia Birthday Committee wishes you a very happy birthday! Enjoy your special day.

Jrcog@Insert something here 01:48, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] pdc

Just wondering ... is pdc:User:Gangleri you as well? Agathoclea 20:24, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Can we cut down on avoidable confusion?

Discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Can we cut down on avoidable confusion?.

OMG, here in Wikipedia there is a Category:Cities by country, a Category:Towns by country and a Category:Municipalities by country. Can't we just get them all put together under Category:Cities and towns by Country? For universities and colleges we already have Category:Universities and colleges by country. It's simple. Cities and towns don't mean the same across the globe, and those complex differences may be good for a lawyer or a diplomat, but NOT FOR AN ENCYCLOPEDIA. Say what? Aditya Kabir 09:58, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

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