User talk:Gamer Junkie
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Hi! No worries about the "its" thing, it's a common mistake. I think the easiest way to keep it straight, until you totally get it down, is just to reread any sentence you've put "it's" in and substitute "it is" for "it's". If "it is" works in the sentence, use an apostrophe; otherwise don't.
Also, when leaving comments on talk pages, you can sign them like this: ~~~~. That will yield a signature like mine here: Chowbok 15:53, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Resident Evil Outbreak
I'd like to apologise for tearing into your contributions to Resident Evil Outbreak - I understand, it isn't fun when someone does that to your work. However, I'd like to see that information re-incorporated into the article, so please consider the suggestion I made at Talk:Resident_Evil_Outbreak. Hope we can get this sorted out. :) RandyWang 14:13, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry you weren't interested in this: either way, though, your contributions should find their way back into the article pretty quickly. Hope it helps. RandyWang 14:34, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey-thanks for the offer to help out with the Resident Evil stuff. I have no idea why I'm suddenly so passionate about cleaning up all the articles, but I'll definitely give you a shout if I'm confused about anything (which I'm sure is going to happen at some point). Thanks a bunch! Amphytrite 04:25, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] We need your input!
Hello Gamer Junkie. We need your opinion on a possible unified computer/video game character infobox, as well as several parameters for the current RE character infobox. Please see Template_talk:Resident_Evil_character. Thanks. --Mad Max 05:11, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Image copyright status
Greetings, Gamer Junkie. When I was uploading the various additional facial shots of the Deus Ex Minor characters, I accidentally forgot to denote the copyright status for the three shots mentioned. When I went back to change them, the system did not seem to read my changes. And deleting old versions appears to be limited to SysOps.
I'm an avid user of WikiPedia, but not a frequent editor (when it comes to images anyway), so I'll look into correcting the oversight.
[edit] Mediation
A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Deus Ex mods, and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Wikipedia:Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible.
[edit] Something I wrote that I'd like your input on
I'm not sure where this came from, or how off-base or on-target it is, but I started writing this today and it just kept coming. Let me know your thoughts on it. -- Y|yukichigai 02:56, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
User:Yukichigai/Content Nazism
[edit] Deus Ex mods article
Just so you know, I've found sources -- yes, honest-to-God sources -- to back up the list of mod links in the Deus Ex mods article, which I've restored. AMIB is refuting my claim that my sources are valid. I'd like your opinion on the matter. -- Y|yukichigai 08:29, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
- Certainly, I'd be glad to chime in. I'm assuming it's the Deus Ex discussion page, right? I'll head over there now. Gamer Junkie 01:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, it's on the Talk:Deus Ex mods page. -- Y|yukichigai 18:15, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
- Wow, I'm surprised to see that AMIB hasn't axed that article already. Gamer Junkie 05:01, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, it's on the Talk:Deus Ex mods page. -- Y|yukichigai 18:15, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The Getaway
I've decided to create a list of getaway gangs/characters on the main page. It shouls go something like this:
[edit] Gang Name
Led By:
Information:
Blah, blah, blah
massive spoilers, etc.
I would like your input on this please--SGCommand (talk • contribs) 14:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Content Authoritarianism
FYI, I think I have something final-ish with the essay. For your future use you can now use the shortcut link WP:IKNOWBEST. That was the best shortcut I could come up with. Also, if you have any more input I'd be glad to hear it. -- Y|yukichigai 00:59, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Civility
I prefer bull-headed asshole. I'm happy to exchange good-natured insults, or simply see who can outdo whom in insulting me, in the proper context. Said proper context is not the edit summary log of article-space articles, however. Please refrain from doing that again. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 10:15, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Don't lecture me on civility whilst acting like a snide prick in the same post. It defeats the purpose. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gamer Junkie (talk • contribs).
- I'm taking some rather rude comments in good humor. Please refrain from making the rude comments, because it strains the good humor of others. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 10:30, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- No good humour here. Take them however you please. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gamer Junkie (talk • contribs).
- The alternative is to take from your comments that you mean to be deliberatively inflammatory and disruptive, which I'd rather not. I don't particularly like blocking users, but putting a stop to disruption is what Special:Blockip is for. I urge you to choose a different course of action. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 10:41, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- No good humour here. Take them however you please. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gamer Junkie (talk • contribs).
- I'm taking some rather rude comments in good humor. Please refrain from making the rude comments, because it strains the good humor of others. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 10:30, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
More policy? Why am I not surprised. I'm not being disruptive to Wikipedia, my comments are not directed towards Wikipedia. Are you finished yet? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gamer Junkie (talk • contribs).
- Well, they are on Wikipedia, but I just wanted you to chill with the insults, that's all. (I don't think we need a policy link for "Please don't insult people here.") "Special" namespace pages are dynamic pages, usually tools of some sort, not policy pages Special:Watchlist is your watchlist, Special:Recentchanges is a feed of the most recent edits, and Special:Blockip is the admin-only special page for blocking users. Special:Specialpages has a list of all the special pages; I can never remember if it shows all of the special pages, or only the special pages the viewer can use. (Pretty sure it's the latter.) - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 10:57, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- What in the hell are you talking about? Don't tell me to chill out. Virtually everything I've added to the Resident Evil section of Wikipedia in the past couple of months has been deleted - by you - in less than three days, due to your ongoing merge fetish. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gamer Junkie (talk • contribs).
- I would suggest not adding description of obscure characters in games sourced only to your personal experience with those games, then. It's unverifiable, and explaining in detail how a game works and giving players advice on how to play are both not part of this project.
- What in the hell are you talking about? Don't tell me to chill out. Virtually everything I've added to the Resident Evil section of Wikipedia in the past couple of months has been deleted - by you - in less than three days, due to your ongoing merge fetish. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gamer Junkie (talk • contribs).
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- I've seen you comment that you think I don't feel Wikipedia shouldn't have articles about games; that's not true at all. I think Wikipedia shouldn't have articles based on games, no more than Wikipedia should have articles based on cats or cheese or weather phenomena. Wikipedia articles should be based on published works, and can be about anything about which there's sufficient commentary in said published works. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 11:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Take a look at any Outbreak manual and you'd see that the information given about items and special actions is quite verifiable. I don't recall explaining how a game works, simply the most appropriate way to utilise the characters described in the articles. That IS why people look up video games on the Internet. Regarding that comment, you've obviously been playing Big Brother, so allow me to add that your disdain for anything video game related is blatently apparent. It's all just "cruft," after all. Regarding finding something else to edit, well, writing about ingrown toenails and Indian raindancing doesn't really appeal to me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gamer Junkie (talk • contribs).
- We're not here to recap the manual. We're here to write about fictional things as artefacts in the real world, the same way we write about everything. The RE Outbreak manuals exist to inform people how to play and how the game works; that's not part of WP's mission.
- Take a look at any Outbreak manual and you'd see that the information given about items and special actions is quite verifiable. I don't recall explaining how a game works, simply the most appropriate way to utilise the characters described in the articles. That IS why people look up video games on the Internet. Regarding that comment, you've obviously been playing Big Brother, so allow me to add that your disdain for anything video game related is blatently apparent. It's all just "cruft," after all. Regarding finding something else to edit, well, writing about ingrown toenails and Indian raindancing doesn't really appeal to me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gamer Junkie (talk • contribs).
- I've seen you comment that you think I don't feel Wikipedia shouldn't have articles about games; that's not true at all. I think Wikipedia shouldn't have articles based on games, no more than Wikipedia should have articles based on cats or cheese or weather phenomena. Wikipedia articles should be based on published works, and can be about anything about which there's sufficient commentary in said published works. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 11:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
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- If I didn't care about games, I wouldn't have spent a great deal of time trying to improve game articles, particularly in the case of Solid Snake, as well as others. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:24, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Indeed, a great deal many others. Whether or not they are actually being improved, however, is a matter of perspective, as one may draw the conclusion that they are simply being altered to better conform to your preferred presentation. Gamer Junkie 06:33, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Have you suggested reaching outside of your circle, then? When I quote policy I'm drawing on widely supported general principles. When I quote guidelines I'm drawing on widely-accepted methods for implementing those principles. If you don't think those principles are widely supported, why not look for wide support in other venues? WP:FICT has a talk page, as does WP:WAF. WP:CVG also has a talk page. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:42, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Call up my buddies? Not my style. I've been thinking about it and now I'm pretty sure that simply steering clear of this section would be best. I'm growing tired of all of this. I fight people at work for a living, I don't need to be doing it with people on the other side of the world when I'm killing time at home. I'm sure I'll find something else worth editing. Gamer Junkie 07:00, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- The point is to call up people who aren't your buddies. Outside input. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:02, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Call up my buddies? Not my style. I've been thinking about it and now I'm pretty sure that simply steering clear of this section would be best. I'm growing tired of all of this. I fight people at work for a living, I don't need to be doing it with people on the other side of the world when I'm killing time at home. I'm sure I'll find something else worth editing. Gamer Junkie 07:00, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Have you suggested reaching outside of your circle, then? When I quote policy I'm drawing on widely supported general principles. When I quote guidelines I'm drawing on widely-accepted methods for implementing those principles. If you don't think those principles are widely supported, why not look for wide support in other venues? WP:FICT has a talk page, as does WP:WAF. WP:CVG also has a talk page. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:42, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
When it comes to policy, you seem to have it down. I'm just going to assume that you know your stuff on this one. No point taking it any further. Gamer Junkie 07:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Re:Minor Deus Ex characters
Thanks for letting me know about the situation. I’m just editing as I read, so not much is in vain. Regarding the spelling, where in the policy does it state that American English is not the standard? I hoped that when I changed the spelling to the American dialect, WP:MOS#National varieties of English may support me with “Articles that focus on a topic specific to a particular English-speaking country should generally conform to the usage and spelling of that country.” As an example, it lists “Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings: British English usage and spelling”. If Tolkien’s novel is to be written in British English, shouldn’t Ion Storm’s game be written in American English? —LOL 21:30, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- How long has this page existed? Forgive me, but I just got back from a New Years party and I'm not exactly in the best of conditions to go over the rules and guidelines. Anyway, you may be right, depending on consensus amongst editors who have left an opinion either opposing or agreeing with the guideline. I believe any guideline or policy less than at least a few months old is to be considered nothing more than WP:CREEP. The problem is that a lot of editors on Wikipedia like to go around creating guidelines, policies and rules and implementing them as they see fit. Readingover it, it looks fairly legitimate and established, although I wouldn't say the fact that Ion Storm was based in America makes it a "strong tie." I do believe there were members of foreign decendancy contributing to Deus Ex, right? Personally, I would usually go with Follow the dialect of the first contributer, or whoever uniformed all of it in the first place. In any case, it's not all that bothersome. I shouldn't have even brought it up. Gamer Junkie 21:47, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Zhang Jiao.jpg)
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[edit] Re: List of Metal Gear Solid 3 characters
It's not Wikipedia's job to account for people who can't be bothered to listen to all the radio conversations. If they really wanted to know all that stuff the would sit through the radio conversations. Read WP:FICT and I will be removing the info again sometime. God I am turning into AMIB
†he Bread 03:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, you are. The fact that you realise it's a bad thing shows that you at least have some sense. That's hardly the only reason for providing the information. Why bother with a character page at all if it's only going to be done half-arsed? That page has already been chopped and cut to scrap. No images, no information, remove what's left and it's not even worth a person's time. Might as well just remove it altogether or merge the miniscule amount of information you wish to keep into the main article. Which, I'm sure, will probably be your next suggestion after removing most of the article. Gamer Junkie 02:53, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
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- What we having the discussion here now? You don't know me, if you did, you'd know that I fought for weeks with AMIB to keep the MGS3 characters list seperate so don't go accussing me of being like that, i'll never be. Also I added the Boss image and argued for images for every character but WP:FU trumps. Now go look at List of Metal Gear Solid characters, ultimately my goal will be to make this list like that, a Featured List, at present the MGS characters list is the only characters list on the whole WP to be a FL. There will be new Images, Volgin, EVA and probably Sokolov will all have screenshots soon. I hate WP:FICT but I have to abide by it, and it states we should try and have real world info as opposed to plot summary or something like that.
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- Firstly, your talk page states that you wish to have discussions on the pages of those who contact you. Secondly, the reason MGS characters is the only "Featured" list on Wikipedia is because, frankly, branching pages are almost entirely ignored. If you've read WP:FICT, you'll notice this: "Wikipedia articles on works of fiction should contain real-world context and sourced analysis, offering detail on a work's achievements, impact or historical significance, not solely a summary of that work's plot. A plot summary may be appropriate as an aspect of a larger article." The article itself states that game summary is allowed, so long as real-world information is provided alongside it, which has also been written into the descriptions if you read them closely. To sum it up, I understand you have grand ambitions for FA status regarding this particular article, I simply don't see why it cannot be acheived without having to sum up each character in one paragraph. And there is nothing to say that it can't. The members who continually hurl these guidelines in our direction tend to only follow the aspects that they approve of. Read it for yourself and you will see this. Gamer Junkie 02:53, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
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In regard to the talk page thing i meant having it alternating between one anothers talk page, but this is fine. You make a good point about WP:FICT. Take a look at this template
It is a warining for having overly long plot summary, we aren't supposed to reiterate the plot, plot is seen as being less important than real world info. Also Trivia is another thing. Trivia is info that is interesting without being important (see WP:AVTRIV). We need the important things about the characters than define them, take Para-Medic the important things are
- Helps out with medical advice
- Saves the game
- Likes movies (they are mentioned almost everytime you save)
Being a Japanophile or whatever isn't important neither is her or any characters height, weight, breast size, favourite food or favourite sport (see WP:WAF).
†he Bread 03:33, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- I haven't read the article today, but I don't recall any of that last stuff, although I would agree in that regard. The "Japanophile" thing alludes to how often she mentions or relates things to the Japanese society or culture, as you would probably already know. This includes noodles, mushrooms, CalorieMate, Kerotan and virtually everything that isn't about movies. The problem I have with policy being so steadfastly reinforced by particular editors is that each policy so often contradicts another. This, in my opinion, makes these guidelines unreliable. Also, looking at each entry, I don't actually see where a whole lot of the game's plot has been described. The End's entry details his battle with Snake, but doesn't really go into it. Each description is based primarily around each character's background. In any case, do as you please, I won't add any further information to the article. Just don't let a few bureaucrats strip away everything of actual use to the reader for the sake of yet another sweeping policy. Half of it is just information creep now anyway. Guidelines being created and enforced by editors and administrators attempting to keep absolute control over a project that isn't supposed to be controlled absolutely. Gamer Junkie 04:58, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Re: C/A
No probs, that disscussion helped me realise I was becoming something I'd fought so hard against in the past. And for that I thank you
†he Bread 03:18, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Lu Bu image
You're off the mark, actually. I personally love the game to bits, but I just think Dynasty Warriors shouldn't be given so much emphasis as compared to other modern references (like other Three Kingdoms games, for example) And I just happen to prefer the official artworks to the sprites for images, that's all. Thanks for your concern. _dk 11:10, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
- Yea...I realize it's difficult for most people to write about other three kingdom games since most of them aren't sold outside Asia, but that's an unfortunate systemic bias I guess. Part of the reason people are more tolerant of RoTK is because the novel is like the Chinese equivalent to Shakespeare (and frankly, not many people, even Chinese people, can tell the difference between written history and the novel for the Three Kingdoms)....Anyways, I myself don't mind the games' mention, I just think it's better to have some balance (for example, if an officer gets a whole section on his game appearance with stats and all, but only a few sentences on his life....then that's bad) _dk 01:50, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Moving Shinobido
Hi Gamer Junkie,
I think a better idea for creating the Shinobido disambig page would be to MOVE the original article to Shinobido: Way of the Ninja, then edit the redirect page created at Shinobido. This would preserve the edit history of the original article.
If it's okay with you, I'd suggest blanking and speedy deleting Shinobido: Way of the Ninja, reverting Shinobido back to the article about the game, then moving the article rather than cutting-and-pasting it. Cheers, FiggyBee 00:49, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hello, I have completed moving the page. Sorry I took so long, I have been away on holidays for the last week. FiggyBee 10:01, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] About the edition on Leon.
That's a pure authentic scanlated page from the manga. And It is certainly a tribute on the author's part with the addition of Shaun (cameo) and other related forms of literature (the meteor, Battle Royale, etc.). I do not intend to vandalize the page, just add information. If this is a problem in the future, feel free to delete it. And thanks for guiding me through the use of discussions. You make a good admin, Gamer. later~ HiranoKouta —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HiranoKouta (talk • contribs) 15:43, 24 January 2007 (UTC).
It seems he takes his job seriously. Bah I'm not gonna waste my time convincing him and providing more and more evidence to spoil the manga (which I could, but like the latter, I want future fans to find out the obvious). That page alone is evident enough (with the fire and the burning bodies and the truck that crashed with them earlier. ) to show that it is a homage to Resident Evil and other zombie works. Thank you for informing me about this anyway, you've been a great help. later~ HiranoKouta
[edit] License tagging for Image:Pang De.jpg
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[edit] Three Kingdoms
As i've stated before, i'm not as interested and definitely not as active in Wikipedia as i used to be anymore (call it jaded if you would). But i do applaud your fortitude and efforts and my full moral support go with you. --Plastictv 00:22, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Glock discussion
I was looking at the discussion and it is terribly cumbersome. Would you mind me posting a summary at the top such as this?
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- In favor of "GLOCK" - Proponents of this approach assert that the GLOCK company spells their name in all caps and as such, Wikipedia should follow suit. They cite WP:IAR as policy and give articles such as iTunes, FireWire, GameCube, DreamWorks, and RealPlayer as examples. They assert that all caps enhances the GLOCK article(s), and that "Glock" is an incorrect use of the name.
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- In favor or "Glock" - Proponents of this approach assert that common use among reputable press organizations has historically been "Glock" (no caps). They cite WP:MOSTM as a guideline and give Unix discussion, Trademark name discussion, and common use as examples. They assert that common use is in line with opposition examples, and that Wikipedia should follow suit in the Glock case as well.
Yeah? No? Care to modify?
Also, I posted the RfC on Jan. 18th. Would it be ok with you if I archived the discussion Feb. 18th?
If at that time the concensus has changed, I will myself change all Glock references to GLOCK immediately after archiving. I will place a note and a link to the archived discussion on the Glock talk page. The note would have the summary I wrote above preceded by...
- A discussion and a consencus has been reached on this topic. The concensus at the time of discussion was XXX. An archive of the discussion can be found here. (<--link) The basic arguments given were this...
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- Further discussion is welcomed in this section.
Something like that. Yeah? No? Thernlund (Talk | Contribs) 20:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Alright then. Done. But... I added the following...
- ...and that all caps "GLOCK" is a marketing device used by the Glock company.
- ...to the "Glock" summary. It was an assertation by a couple folks in favor of "Glock". However being that I added it last minute without an agreement, I'll remove it if you want. Buuuutt... otherwise it's done. -Thernlund (Talk | Contribs) 20:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
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- They assert that "Glock" is an incorrect use of the name, and that regardless of marketing status, all caps enhances the GLOCK article(s).
- Yeah? No? -Thernlund (Talk | Contribs) 20:34, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
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Your addition looks good. -Thernlund (Talk | Contribs) 20:42, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Heeeeyyyy...
Thanks! Didn't see that coming. :-D -Thernlund (Talk | Contribs) 21:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Liu Bei image
Well, let me tell you this: there is no individual Liu Bei portrait for the DW5 artbook (because his portrait IS the one with his brothers...I know because I used to have the book). I think using the one from DW4 is a good choice though, it only needs some cropping to get rid of the black space. _dk 08:37, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pictures on List of minor characters in Judge Dredd
I think we actually did decide it would be a good idea to have some pictures on that article, but then we just never got around to actually doing it... I don't have access to most of my comics at the moment since I've moved house, but if you want to start putting some pictures up then I'm certain it would improve the article. Lots of other lists like this one have them. Thanks in advance for helping. Richard75 17:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hey, what the?
I didn't expect that, but it certainly made my day. Thanks =D _dk 12:14, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- No problem. Just giving credit where it's due. Gamer Junkie 12:21, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] RE:STARS article - Brad Vicker
Alrighty. Thanks for the heads up (No pun intended) :-p .-- ShadowJester07 ►Talk 17:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] About this Denise Chan person
The anon posted cruft. As far as I know, this anon who's really Denise Christie Chan has been engaging in excessive cruft posting. I apologize for any inconvenience I might have caused as Benten, myself, and other people have been trying to force Ms. Denise Christie Chan to stop posting cruft, as she has been using Wikipedia as a discussion front and/or as a crystal ball rather than what it was intended for. Talk pages were meant to be used as fronts on improving and/or resolving disputes on an article, not for discussion. — Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 18:51, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] About the Red Cliffs movie
Apparently that was not the official cast. See here [1] _dk 14:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)