Talk:Game of strategy

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The game classification article lists games of skill and games of strategy as separate categories - but chess, checkers (draughts) and go are listed here as games of strategy but are also listed in the mind sport article, which is a sub-category of games of skill. So which category do they belong to ? I am confused. -- Gandalf61 13:24, Nov 25, 2003 (UTC)

• as i know mind sport games (chess, checkers (draughts) and go) may belong to both categories dependent how they are played. as solitaire (vs computer) or problem set games they tend to games of skill but are not quite; vs a second human player they are classical games of strategy .. i/someone should take some more reading about the classifications although they are propagated by Anderson/Moore and Brian Sutton-Smith i havent found unf more valuable/clear information about it than what i've written down yet. -- Ebricca 13:30, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)

If Mastermind (game) is a game of strategy, then so too are Diplomacy (game) and Rock, Paper, Scissors --Henrygb 11:18, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

No, Rock, Paper, Scissors is a game of chance. It does involve having some idea how your opponent plays, but the Nash equilibrium is for both players to play completely randomly. Seahen 23:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Indeed so. But this is a randomised strategy, as is setting the code in Mastermind and many optimal strategies in game theory, which then become a game of chance by playing the optimal strategy. Snakes and Ladders is a game of pure chance - there is nothing you can do to change the outcome, but Rock, Paper, Scissors actually requires a stategic decision to be random or to seek to exploit the other player's non-randomness. --Henrygb 14:36, 16 May 2006 (UTC)