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Why is he Gaius Marius I ? Muriel Gottrop

Why not include any information on the civil war between the Marius and Cinna faction against Sulla? That's actually more important than the information on the Cimbri and Teutoni campaigns, not matter how interesting the details are.

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[edit] Importance of Gaius Marius

Just a slight edit, there; for some reason, someone felt it necessary to put all of the fall of the Republic on Marius's shoulders; the changes were important, but conflicts between factions and personalities weren't unimportant.

---Mr. Nexx July 6, 2005 18:25 (UTC)

[edit] Timeline?

Anyone feel up to the job of creating a chronology for Marius - help sum up this rather hefty article? GeeJo 16:09, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

  • Never mind, did it myself. If any fancy cleaning it up, youre more than welcome to do so :) GeeJo 18:08, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Marius - Importance

just added a quote from Proffessor Hughs Last on the importance of Marius its quite a good one

"[Gaius Marius] did more than any other single factor to make possible that a series of civil wars which only ended in the establishment of the Principate." Either 'that' or 'which' is too much here, right? First one to agree on this can correct it. Piet 12:38, 6 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Marius and breaking Roman law

Marius did not break Roman Law when he backed the tribune of the plebs Sulpicius to go to the Assembly (probably the Centuriate Assembly) and remove the command over the eastern war from Sulla. Although the Senate had given command of the War to Sulla, the Senate did not have the power to make this command law. Under the law, the Senate was an advisory body only (although in reality it usually had its way), the Centuriate Assembly passed laws. Now under mos maiorum (tradition), the command of armies went to the consuls of the year, this was a traditional rule, not a legal one. When Sulpicius passed his many anti-senate laws in 88 BC, the consuls of the year issued a iustitium (suspension of public business) to block him (which Sulpicius then declared illegal). Thus while Sulpicius (and his backer Marius) broke the mos maiorum, their acts were technically legal since the Assembly passed a law transferring command from Sulla to Marius. --M Drusus 12:45, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

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and isn't he the plebian archetype, an analogy and metaphor for the likes of Juan Peron and his opponents like Franco or Pinochet? It has been said by some modern historians, interpreting Plutarch and others, that during Caesar's struggle for power, the masses in Rome became electrified when in one of Caesar's mass demonstrations banners referrring to or with Marius' visage were seen. A portrait of Marius is supposedly in the Governor's Mansion in Texas. In fact, according to Plutarch, during a campaign to subjugate Iberia, Tiberious Sempronius Gracchus one night while around the campfire was asked who the next great man at Rome would be, he tapped the young centurion next to him indicating 'perhaps it is this man?'

[edit] The Wiki principle

The opening portion of this article only tells a little bit abour who Marius was. This article should begin with an agregious summary of his career before moving onto the complete excruciating history. And I agree that this article should include the conflict with sulla. In my history textbook, that's practically all that's mentioned.

[edit] maries person fing

mmmmmmmmmeeeerrrrrrrrrrrr —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.42.171.182 (talk) 17:46, 12 January 2007 (UTC).

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